General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2021)

[TwistedLogic]

If this team can hang around .500 against Boston and New York this week and then make up some ground against Baltimore and Miami they will be well positioned to make a run at the deadline. Both through trade and internal additions. Not many teams are going to be adding: Springer, Merryweather, Kirk, Hatch, Murphy et al between now and July.

 

I'm personally not okay with just splitting the next four games. I want the Jays to finish the job against the Red Sox today and then go into Buffalo looking for a sweep of the Yankees. New York isn't nearly as good as the standings show. They just fielded a lineup yesterday where the highest OPS was the .741 of Gary Sanchez. And they were in the National League where they could pinch hit.

 

They've had an absolutely brutal time scoring runs and the Jays should absolutely be looking for a series sweep here, with a 2-1 win as the least acceptable scenario.

[Spanky99]

[Bluebombers]

Agree completely. They have been sending out lineups with 4 sometimes 5 guys hitting below mendoza/ overbay line.

Abysmal b/a few

[max silver]

 

That's the best lineup we've seen in ages, the only easy out in McGuire at the bottom of the order.

[Scion]

I'm personally not okay with just splitting the next four games. I want the Jays to finish the job against the Red Sox today and then go into Buffalo looking for a sweep of the Yankees. New York isn't nearly as good as the standings show. They just fielded a lineup yesterday where the highest OPS was the .741 of Gary Sanchez. And they were in the National League where they could pinch hit.

 

They've had an absolutely brutal time scoring runs and the Jays should absolutely be looking for a series sweep here, with a 2-1 win as the least acceptable scenario.

 

That is a fair point, I don't think I realized how poor the Yankees lineup has been this year.

[RobinThicc]

Win tonight would be huge

[Ray]

Steven Matz diagnosed with COVID. He’s symptom free, but he’ll presumably still be unavailable for about 2 weeks.

 

Thomas Hatch to get the start in his place?

[Dr. Dinger]

Steven Matz diagnosed with COVID. He’s symptom free, but he’ll presumably still be unavailable for about 2 weeks.

 

What a f***ing idiot *******. Get your f***ing vaccination, dumbass.

[max silver]

What a f***ing idiot *******. Get your f***ing vaccination, dumbass.

 

We don't know whether he's been vaccinated or not. The Yankees outbreak was largely unvaccinated individuals if I recall correctly.

[TwistedLogic]

What a f***ing idiot *******. Get your f***ing vaccination, dumbass.

 

He's definitely an idiot if he hasn't gotten it, but do we know for sure that he hasn't? Half the Yankees team caught COVID and Nevin nearly died from it even though they were all fully vaccinated beforehand.

[Olerud363]

He's definitely an idiot if he hasn't gotten it, but do we know for sure that he hasn't? Half the Yankees team caught COVID and Nevin nearly died from it even though they were all fully vaccinated beforehand.

 

I don't think any plays got COVID except for Torres, who was back in 8 days because he had been vaccinated (didn't have to wait the full 10, only had to wait until a negative test).

 

I think 7 coach's including Nevin got it, and Nevin is the only one who had symptoms, and it sounds like he had other issues going on.

[RobinThicc]

We don't know whether he's been vaccinated or not. The Yankees outbreak was largely unvaccinated individuals if I recall correctly.

Pretty sure a lot of them were fully vaccinated. Or at least, thats what the Yankees said.

[Dr. Dinger]

We know not everybody on the Jays is vaccinated, because they only last week hit the 85% vaccination threshold to allow them to forego masks in the dugout. Until I hear otherwise I'm going to assume that Matz is a regressive anti-vaxxing NRA zealot who voted for Trump and probably stormed the capitol. If he was vaxed, I'm sure he will make a point of stating so to reporters. If not, safe to assume he's a f***ing dumbass.

[RobinThicc]

Breakthrough covid cases are thing, so him getting covid doesnt really suggest anything.

[Dr. Dinger]

Breakthrough covid cases are thing, so him getting covid doesnt really suggest anything.

 

That's like saying people get hit by lightning so finding a dead body by the side of the road doesn't suggest foul play. It definitely suggests he didn't get vaxed, as we know factually that vaccinated individuals have 90%+ immunity. It's not a certainty, but it's absolutely a valid inference.

[RobinThicc]

That's like saying people get hit by lightning so finding a dead body by the side of the road doesn't suggest foul play. It definitely suggests he didn't get vaxed, as we know factually that vaccinated individuals have 90%+ immunity. It's not a certainty, but it's absolutely a valid inference.

Sure, you could assume. No one really cares, but theres nothing to gain from it.

[Laika]

Breakthrough covid cases are thing, so him getting covid doesnt really suggest anything.

 

It certainly suggests something. It doesn't prove it though.

[RobinThicc]

It certainly suggests something. It doesn't prove it though.

Yeah, thats a better way to put itn

[43211234]

Surprised I didn't see this posted yet:

 

[Grant77]

This should end any arguments. There are a number of reasons he could have tested positive, even if he is vaccinated. It's considerably more likely that he isn't vaccinated, but certainly not enough to make any conclusions.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/effectiveness/why-measure-effectiveness/breakthrough-cases.html

[King]

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[Captain Adama]

Metafour is a f***ing idiot.

 

That is all.

[Dr. Dinger]

Remember how we traded Liam Hendriks for nothing, twice?

[BCZ]

I'm so glad Springer will be back so he can get injured again!

[Dr. Dinger]

Dinger's Top 10 Conceivably Available, Conceivably High Leverage 2021 Trade Deadline Relief Targets

 

1) Taylor Rogers MIN

2) Daniel Bard COL

3) Daniel Hudson WAS

4) Scott Barlow KC

5) Jose Cisnero DET

6) Michael Fulmer DET

7) Ian Kennedy TEX

8) Kendall Graveman SEA

9) Richard Rodriguez PIT

10) Josh Sborz TEX

[Laika]

Really should have traded for Matt Wisler two days ago

[Dr. Dinger]

Jays should consider taking on Donaldson's contract if it allows them to acquire Rogers, TBH.

[Dr. Dinger]

Don't think the Twins are selling to that degree. They would probably only sell expirings like Cruz and Simmons.

 

I dunno... they have an old team, a distended payroll (by their standards), and this season is a total write-off. Rogers and Donaldson are only under contract through next season. Logically they should consider trading those players if they can clear payroll and acquire a Top 100 prospect or two.

[Spanky99]

Jays should consider taking on Donaldson's contract if it allows them to acquire Rogers, TBH.

 

Get Stashak while they're at it, Twins misuse that pen big time.

[BCZ]

I know the WAR doesn't compute this but I honestly feel like we would have won at least 3 more games than we lost if Springer was in the everyday line-up.