glory Old-Timey Member Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 Owners are billionaires and do make a lot of money off the investment (most of them anyway), but they are owners for a reason. They use revenue to pay players, not their own dime. If revenue is compromised due to something completely out of anyone's control, then most businesses will let people go to avoided losses. Some owners will probably lose more money if they play the 2020 season and pay the players their prorated salary, so what's their incentive to even have the season if there isn't a reasonable split on money? On the flip side, I understand the players' POV as well. They have guaranteed contracts. If revenue increased, their salaries would stay the same, so why shouldn't it stay the same when revenue is down? Logical stance. Only issue is revenue is down because of a pandemic, not normal business issues. If owners were losing money because people suddenly stopped going to baseball games out of choice, then that's a different story. That's not the case here. I'm always going to be on the side of wanting to see players to get paid. In this case though, I don't see how they (the players) can win in the court of public opinion.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 Owners are billionaires and do make a lot of money off the investment (most of them anyway), but they are owners for a reason. They use revenue to pay players, not their own dime. If revenue is compromised due to something completely out of anyone's control, then most businesses will let people go to avoided losses. Some owners will probably lose more money if they play the 2020 season and pay the players their prorated salary, so what's their incentive to even have the season if there isn't a reasonable split on money? On the flip side, I understand the players' POV as well. They have guaranteed contracts. If revenue increased, their salaries would stay the same, so why shouldn't it stay the same when revenue is down? Logical stance. Only issue is revenue is down because of a pandemic, not normal business issues. If owners were losing money because people suddenly stopped going to baseball games out of choice, then that's a different story. That's not the case here. I'm always going to be on the side of wanting to see players to get paid. In this case though, I don't see how they (the players) can win in the court of public opinion. Yeah, agreed. I’m a see-both-sides guy too but as you said, you’re talking about a national emergency. This isn’t a matter of whether the owners make more or less than projected during a season. If they were operating the same as always and then tried to talk about revenue split, then yeah I’d understand the players side more. But you’re talking about playing in front of no fans and still incurring all the costs of maintaining a staff and all the expenses around running an mlb team. For teams without a super lucrative tv deal, there prob wouldn’t be much incentive to play games if you’re going to lose money. So this thing is probably dead in the water unfortunately, as reported at least
TheHurl Site Manager Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 yep happy to see Garret Cole make 0 this year. Baseball players started receiving some of their salary back April 1st. $170 million that will be distributed to players via a tiered system. Only players on a big league or split contracts (veteran players on minor league deals) are eligible to receive compensation.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Is the Tweet between Jose Altuve and Aroldis Chapman real?? WoW LMAO!!
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Is the Tweet between Jose Altuve and Aroldis Chapman real?? WoW LMAO!!
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 [ATTACH=CONFIG]2205[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]2205[/ATTACH] Why is this site such a PITA for pics!!
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 This f*** this site!! I don't have this problem on any other chat board!
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Why is this site such a PITA for pics!! Dude...
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Why is this site such a PITA for pics!!
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) Dude, just put [tweet ] [/tweet ] between the tweet number, you're good, or [img ] and your link Just like you use quotes, etc... Edited May 13, 2020 by Spanky99
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 You guys are posting stuff with the watermark "The Sports Memery" across the middle. Come on guys, this is obviously false. It's not even funny. A 3 second search tells me Altuve barely uses Twitter and this interaction never happened.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) You guys are posting stuff with the watermark "The Sports Memery" across the middle. Come on guys, this is obviously false. It's not even funny. A 3 second search tells me Altuve barely uses Twitter and this interaction never happened. I'm just presenting what CD brought to the table. C'mon Org. F U CD!!! Edited May 13, 2020 by Spanky99
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Have to spend money to make money. With a huge vacuum of no sports, it would be a wise investment for the owners to take a loss this year, and increase the fan base.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 C'mon Sirbjay, you don't see that? lol
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Have to spend money to make money. With a huge vacuum of no sports, it would be a wise investment for the owners to take a loss this year, and increase the fan base. Yes, there are 2 sides, but f***off this year. Owners will still get TV deals, which they were to lose, it can't be far for both sides to agree.
Beans Verified Member Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Is the Tweet between Jose Altuve and Aroldis Chapman real?? WoW LMAO!! Considering they speak about as much English as you speak Spanish, it’s obviously a joke...
Beans Verified Member Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 This[ATTACH=CONFIG]2206[/ATTACH] f*** this site!! I don't have this problem on any other chat board! I get it, it’s this site that’s stupid and not you.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 Considering they speak about as much English as you speak Spanish, it’s obviously a joke... Spanish is the primary language in my house.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 I get it, it’s this site that’s stupid and not you. You are correct.
Beans Verified Member Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 You are correct. https://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/misc.php?do=bbcode
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 Blake Snell crying like a baby online. f*** him and f*** the rest of the players. shut this s*** down
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 Blake Snell is a f***ing retard. Not necessarily what he said, but how he said it. Rich pampered white boy straight from the hood. American education system at work. I never realized that I had a Canadian accent until today. And having one is a good thing.
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 Blake Snell crying like a baby online. f*** him and f*** the rest of the players. shut this s*** down If he wants to make a stand and not get paid anything I guess that's his prerogative. I wonder how many other players have a similar mindset?
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 I wonder how many players she’s banged
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 I wonder how many players she’s banged She's out of your league, Connor
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