MLB Suspends Operations, Starting This Afternoon

[Boxcar]

There's a million dollar idea - Nutflix.

 

That's actually a really good idea. I'm tired of these truncated PornHub videos.

[Boxcar]

China f***ing sucks. Every plague comes out of there.

[LGBJ29]

If the numbers are to be believed then they are approaching 2 months with a death rate not much different than influenza. The initial spike in Wuhan province was pretty devastating, however.

 

the death rate is significantly higher for Covid-19, about 10x higher, and it is twice as contagious

 

Edit: I see what you're saying, just read another report. If we remove wuhan and include cases after feb 4th, then the mortality rate is down to 0.7%, but that is still roughly 7x higher than the seasonal flu.

[Bobthe4th]

Anyone have tickets for opening week? The Astros are dragging their feet over refunding my tickets for a couple of their opening games.

[DigitalRock]

If the numbers are to be believed then they are approaching 2 months with a death rate not much different than influenza. The initial spike in Wuhan province was pretty devastating, however.

 

People like you are absolute idiots...Yes, all the top medical pros making these extreme measures are wrong and it's just "The Flu". Shutting down countries and costing the economy billiins. The death rate is magnitudes bigger than flu, it is right now matching the last big pandemic, the spanish flu. It is also brand new and just started spreading with zero immunity...the numbers are just the tip of the ice berg right now. Also it is the extreme measures we are taking that has slowed it down. China basically shut down, and in two months it is fading there...you never need to do this for the flu.

 

Given that the virus is very sensitive to heat and humidity, I would expect Florida to be one of their first places cleared to play. Of course politics and healthcare can alter the spread as much as it's biology, but it gives me hope that ST can get started quickly.

 

Were did you see this? I have read the opposite . they don't know at this point, and signs are that heat will not effect it.

 

http://theconversation.com/will-warmer-weather-stop-the-spread-of-coronavirus-133208

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-australia-summer-warm-weather-2020-3

 

It is summer in Australia and they are getting hit now and it's growing fast there....

 

Grant aka the King of mis-information. When did you get your infectious disease diploma?

Edited March 13, 2020 by DigitalRock

[BlueRocky]

the death rate is significantly higher for Covid-19, about 10x higher, and it is twice as contagious

 

Edit: I see what you're saying, just read another report. If we remove wuhan and include cases after feb 4th, then the mortality rate is down to 0.7%, but that is still roughly 7x higher than the seasonal flu.

 

SARS was @10%, COVID-19 is nowhere near as deadly (@3.4%-3.7%). The most vulnerable demographic are seniors and those with compromised immune systems. The typical healthy individual infected can and will get better in two weeks with no vaccine.

 

The problem is the two week incubation period and people can spread it while experiencing no symptoms.

[Brownie19]

I read the spanish flu killed about 10% of the infected people. Covid 19 isn't anywhere close to that yet.

 

I also read the heat does kill it (26-27 degrees Celsius).

 

But my s*** is from Facebook so who the f*** knows.

 

 

Regardless - why the f*** are you insulting people?

[Frag]

I want my sports back.

[Frag]

I read the spanish flu killed about 10% of the infected people. Covid 19 isn't anywhere close to that yet.

 

I also read the heat does kill it (26-27 degrees Celsius).

 

But my s*** is from Facebook so who the f*** knows.

 

 

Regardless - why the f*** are you insulting people?

 

I read that the Spanish flu killed around 2.5-3.5%, not 10%. Hard to tell given we didn't have as good data back then.

[Jimcanuck]

Given that the virus is very sensitive to heat and humidity, I would expect Florida to be one of their first places cleared to play. Of course politics and healthcare can alter the spread as much as it's biology, but it gives me hope that ST can get started quickly.

 

The heat thing is a myth. Some of the hottest places in the world are becoming infection hotspots.

[Dick_Pole]

Difference between Spanish Flu and Coronavirus: About 100 years of medical technology and no WW1.

[Laika]

The death rate of this thing in any first world country will be very contingent on how overloaded the health care system is. There is not some absolute, "native" mortality rate of 1-2% or some clean number you can expect.

 

If the spread does not overwhelm to health care system you might see a mortality rate under 1% here. Maybe it's only a wee bit higher than the seasonal influenza. If the HC system becomes overwhelmed you might see like, ~6% in those areas. I think Italy's reported mortality rate is around there.

 

Wild times. Imagine if in your City the hospital become overwhelmed and a huge swath of the old people just f***ing died in the hallways.

[Jimcanuck]

Difference between Spanish Flu and Coronavirus: About 100 years of medical technology and no WW1.

 

And medical technology has no solution in both cases. There is no cure for any virus, only vaccines where you are infected with non-lethal version of the virus.

[Jimcanuck]

The death rate of this thing in any first world country will be very contingent on how overloaded the health care system is. There is not some absolute, "native" mortality rate of 1-2% or some clean number you can expect.

 

If the spread does not overwhelm to health care system you might see a mortality rate under 1% here. Maybe it's only a wee bit higher than the seasonal influenza. If the HC system becomes overwhelmed you might see like, ~6% in those areas. I think Italy's reported mortality rate is around there.

 

Wild times. Imagine if in your City the hospital become overwhelmed and a huge swath of the old people just f***ing died in the hallways.

 

Cannot rely on the health care system in this case, only social distancing and heavily stepped up personal hygiene.

[Laika]

And medical technology has no solution in both cases. There is no cure for any virus, only vaccines where you are infected with non-lethal version of the virus.

 

Pneumonia sounds like the acute cause of death in most of these cases. Pretty sure the medical interventions for viral pneumonia are a little bit better in 2020 than they were in 1918.

[Jimcanuck]

Pneumonia sounds like the acute cause of death in most of these cases. Pretty sure the medical interventions for viral pneumonia are a little bit better in 2020 than they were in 1918.

 

Obviously there is no cure as it is a common cause of death. Have gotten better at managing the symptoms and giving the body a better fighting chance, is all.

[Laika]

Obviously there is no cure as it is a common cause of death. Have gotten better at managing the symptoms and giving the body a better fighting chance, is all.

 

This is a dumb and vapid reply to my reply to your reply and you should delete it.

[Boxcar]

SARS was @10%, COVID-19 is nowhere near as deadly (@3.4%-3.7%). The most vulnerable demographic are seniors and those with compromised immune systems. The typical healthy individual infected can and will get better in two weeks with no vaccine.

 

The problem is the two week incubation period and people can spread it while experiencing no symptoms.

 

SARS was also not as contagious

[Beans]

For reference, when the virus broke out in China, the Chinese Basketball Association suspended play in late January. It plans to resume in early April, roughly a 10-week layoff.

[Beans]

The death rate of this thing in any first world country will be very contingent on how overloaded the health care system is. There is not some absolute, "native" mortality rate of 1-2% or some clean number you can expect.

 

If the spread does not overwhelm to health care system you might see a mortality rate under 1% here. Maybe it's only a wee bit higher than the seasonal influenza. If the HC system becomes overwhelmed you might see like, ~6% in those areas. I think Italy's reported mortality rate is around there.

 

Wild times. Imagine if in your City the hospital become overwhelmed and a huge swath of the old people just f***ing died in the hallways.

 

This.

 

Self-quarantining isn't just protecting yourself, it's to slow the spread so those who need hospital beds can get them. It's the perfect moment for young and healthy people to do their part to avoid putting the sick and elderly at risk.

[LGBJ29]

SARS was @10%, COVID-19 is nowhere near as deadly (@3.4%-3.7%). The most vulnerable demographic are seniors and those with compromised immune systems. The typical healthy individual infected can and will get better in two weeks with no vaccine.

 

The problem is the two week incubation period and people can spread it while experiencing no symptoms.

 

While that is true, the SARS outbreak only infected 8000 people, COVID is way more contagious. Yes, a typical healthy individual will recover in 99.8% of cases, but the worry is that those people can pass it on to a more vulnerable person such as their parents/grandparents where the death rate is far higher.

[Grant77]

I love how the people saying that this is as bad as the Spanish Flu are calling people idiots for citing statements and numbers from scientific institutions. Panic and misinformation are just as bad as the nonchalant attitude that some others are taking.

 

Jim and Digitalrock maybe you should self isolate from the internet for a couple of weeks to protect others from fear mongering.

[Jimcanuck]

I love how the people saying that this is as bad as the Spanish Flu are calling people idiots for citing statements and numbers from scientific institutions. Panic and misinformation are just as bad as the nonchalant attitude that some others are taking.

 

Jim and Digitalrock maybe you should self isolate from the internet for a couple of weeks to protect others from fear mongering.

 

The f*** you talking about, you idiot?

 

Your comment that hot weather kills the virus is ********. Give me a reputable source that says otherwise.

[Spanky99]

This is a dumb and vapid reply to my reply to your reply and you should delete it.

 

lol

[Grant77]

The f*** you talking about, you idiot?

 

Your comment that hot weather kills the virus is ********. Give me a reputable source that says otherwise.

 

Lying about what other people said doesn't make you look like less of a fool.

 

Nobody said that hot weather kills the virus. It spreads most effectively at 8.72 C according to reputable studies. That means that the virus could spread more slowly at temperatures far away from 8.72 C.

[Jimcanuck]

Given that the virus is very sensitive to heat and humidity, I would expect Florida to be one of their first places cleared to play. Of course politics and healthcare can alter the spread as much as it's biology, but it gives me hope that ST can get started quickly.

 

Lying about what other people said doesn't make you look like less of a fool.

 

Nobody said that hot weather kills the virus. It spreads most effectively at 8.72 C according to reputable studies. That means that the virus could spread more slowly at temperatures far away from 8.72 C.

 

Got sources for your BS? And don't give me studies on SARS-CV or other coronavirus, they all have different characteristics.

 

NYT March 10:

 

Scientists don’t know how long the new coronavirus can live on surfaces, and preliminary research suggests that hot and humid environments may not slow down the pathogen’s spread.

 

Chinese study published in peer reviewed journal:

 

A novel coronavirus (COVID-19) was identified in Wuhan, Hubei Province, China, in December 2019 and has caused over 40,000 cases worldwide to date. Previous studies have supported an epidemiological hypothesis that cold and dry (low absolute humidity) environments facilitate the survival and spread of droplet-mediated viral diseases, and warm and humid (high absolute humidity) environments see attenuated viral transmission (i.e., influenza). However, the role of absolute humidity in transmission of COVID-19 has not yet been established. Here, we examine province-level variability of the basic reproductive numbers of COVID-19 across China and find that changes in weather alone (i.e., increase of temperature and humidity as spring and summer months arrive in the North Hemisphere) will not necessarily lead to declines in COVID-19 case counts without the implementation of extensive public health interventions.

[Brownie19]

Holy f*** Jim - calm down

[Jimcanuck]

Holy f*** Jim - calm down

 

I'm perfectly calm. If we are to slow down this thing, misinformation like Grant's needs to be confronted.

[Grant77]

The ideal temperature for Covid19 was determined by a research team from Sun Yat-Sen University in Guangzhou and it is 8.72 Celsius. It's yet to be peer reviewed, but it is the only study available and falls within the expected range for other viruses in the same family.

 

Every virus that exists has conditions in which it spreads well and spreads poorly. None of this is controversial with anyone but you and your fellow conspiracy theorists.

[Jimcanuck]

The ideal temperature for Covid19 was determined by a research team from Sun Yat-Sen University in Guangzhou and it is 8.72 Celsius. It's yet to be peer reviewed, but it is the only study available and falls within the expected range for other viruses in the same family.

 

Every virus that exists has conditions in which it spreads well and spreads poorly. None of this is controversial with anyone but you and your fellow conspiracy theorists.

 

Your first post says the virus is "very sensitive to heat and humidity". How do you draw that conclusion from an unpublished study identifying the ideal transmission temperature?