2019 World Series - Astros vs. Nationals

[Orgfiller]

What is Dave Martinez's problem lol? He got the umps to review an unreviewable play and got a huge leash on top of that and he was still irate?

[Brownie19]

Buck is infatuated with the bat carrying. Edited October 30, 2019 by Brownie19

[Omar]

That's completely irrelevant. He could sweep out to the pitching mound, return back and step dead center on the 1st base bag too...

 

NO.

[TheHurl]

When he stepped on first he was dead centre.

 

the rule is that by about the 45 foot mark you have to be in the runners lane in foul territory. Is he breaking the rule...yes. Was there interference...yes.

[DigitalRock]

f*** the stros, go nats.

[TheHurl]

What is Dave Martinez's problem lol? He got the umps to review an unreviewable play and got a huge leash on top of that and he was still irate?

 

Yeah could say the review hurt the pitcher. Most importantly I want another run scored...but 4 or more by Astros would be better although I kind of want to see a game 7

[Omar]

the rule is that by about the 45 foot mark you have to be in the runners lane in foul territory. Is he breaking the rule...yes. Was there interference...yes.

 

from umpire bible...

 

There are two exceptions to this rule: Runners can step out of the lane at the last minute, when they're trying to touch first base via a final step, stride, reach or slide. And runners can head to first without running in the lane at all -- either to the right or left of it -- as long as they don't interfere with any throws by defensive players,

[BlueBaller]

so many bad calls at the plate. these are the best umps in baseball?

[BlueBaller]

f*** the stros, go nats.

Asstros, imho.

[Brownie19]

from umpire bible...

 

There are two exceptions to this rule: Runners can step out of the lane at the last minute, when they're trying to touch first base via a final step, stride, reach or slide. And runners can head to first without running in the lane at all -- either to the right or left of it -- as long as they don't interfere with any throws by defensive players,

 

so he didn't interfere with the defensive player? the defensive players glove was in fair territory when Turner hits it.

 

also - I see nothing about landing on the center of the base. So YES - it's irrelevant.

[Abomination]

so he didn't interfere with the defensive player? the defensive players glove was in fair territory when Turner hits it.

 

also - I see nothing about landing on the center of the base. So YES - it's irrelevant.

 

they really need to extend 1st base way into foul territory and prevent this sort of nonsense. Make it clear cut as hell.

[Brownie19]

they really need to extend 1st base way into foul territory and prevent this sort of nonsense. Make it clear cut as hell.

 

get the slo pitch bags...it's really not a stupid idea.

[Beans]

so he didn't interfere with the defensive player? the defensive players glove was in fair territory when Turner hits it.

 

also - I see nothing about landing on the center of the base. So YES - it's irrelevant.

It's not like he saw the glove and tried to knock it out. He arrived at the same time as the ball did.

[Omar]

so he didn't interfere with the defensive player? the defensive players glove was in fair territory when Turner hits it.

 

also - I see nothing about landing on the center of the base. So YES - it's irrelevant.

 

First base is in fair territory....you have to step on it as you approach first. So no he did not interfere.

 

Runners can step out of the lane at the last minute, when they're trying to touch first base

[Abomination]

It's not like he saw the glove and tried to knock it out. He arrived at the same time as the ball did.

 

Irrelevant. It would be like saying a runner got hit by a batted ball preventing the fielder from making a play, but it shouldn't matter because he was looking at the outfielders and didn't see it coming at him.

[TheHurl]

from umpire bible...

 

There are two exceptions to this rule: Runners can step out of the lane at the last minute, when they're trying to touch first base via a final step, stride, reach or slide. And runners can head to first without running in the lane at all -- either to the right or left of it -- as long as they don't interfere with any throws by defensive players,

 

and they obviously interfered

[Brownie19]

First base is in fair territory....you have to step on it as you approach first. So no he did not interfere.

 

Runners can step out of the lane at the last minute, when they're trying to touch first base

 

Interference doesn't have to be intentional. He clearly interfered with the fielders ability to catch the ball. He also didn't step 'out of the lane at the last minute' to touch the bag....tough to do that when he never even entered the running lane.

 

give it a rest man.

[Omar]

and they obviously interfered

 

.....he interfered by stepping on first. Terrible call.

[TheHurl]

First base is in fair territory....you have to step on it as you approach first. So no he did not interfere.

 

Runners can step out of the lane at the last minute, when they're trying to touch first base

 

It's a stupid rule but it was called right. He ran in fair territory the entire way. Smart players throw at batters in the lane.

[TheHurl]

.....he interfered by stepping on first. Terrible rule.

 

ftfy

[Omar]

Rendon. is. awesome.

[Beans]

It's a stupid rule but it was called right. He ran in fair territory the entire way. Smart players throw at batters in the lane.

Yeah, Smoltz was saying the same thing, that pitchers and infielders are taught to throw at the runner in order to take advantage of this stupid rule.

[TheHurl]

Our rules reference is 5.09(a)(11), which reads in part:

 

In running the last half of the distance from home base to first base, while the ball is being fielded to first base, he runs outside (to the right of) the three-foot line, or inside (to the left of) the foul line, and in the umpire's judgment in so doing interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base .....

 

When we said that you're not necessarily out for interference when running outside the running lane, we're calling attention to a few wrinkles in the rule. Here are the important points to remember when judging interference on 5.09(a)(11):

 

First, let's define the running lane: A three-foot-wide lane occupying the last half of the distance to first base. The lines marking the running lane are part of the running lane. That's important.

When is a runner out of the running lane? The batter-runner is out of the running lane when, during the last half of the distance to first base, one of the runner's feet (or both, for that matter) is entirely outside the running lane at the time that the interference potentially (but again, not necessarily) occurs.

 

A throw must be made. If the catcher, for example, comes up with a bunted ball and sets up to throw to first, but then stops and doesn't throw because the runner (in his view) is in the way, you cannot have interference. The fielder must make an attempt to throw to first.

The throw must be a catchable throw. Using the same example, if the catcher comes up with a bunted ball and then throws wild to first base because (in his view) the runner was in the way, you cannot have interference. The throw must be one that the first baseman has a reasonable chance (with ordinary effort) to catch.

 

Note carefully the language of the rule: "… interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base." So umpire judgment rests on what's happening with the fielder at first base, not the fielder who is making the throw. This is a critical point and is often misunderstood. Points #3 and #4 rest on this point: That if there is interference, the interference is on the fielder receiving the ball at first base, not on the fielder throwing the ball from the vicinity of home plate. You will sometimes get managers arguing running lane interference mistakenly arguing that the fielder who threw the ball was upset by the runner's position outside the running lane. He's entirely mistaken with that line of argument.

 

There are two exceptions. There are two exceptions (wrinkles, really) in Rule 5.09(a)(11). First, the runner is permitted to leave the running lane to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball. We know this already from what we've learned thus far about interference – that the fielder has the right of way in fielding a batted ball. Second, noticing that first base itself (the bag) is outside the running lane, the runner is permitted by rule to step out of the running lane for the purpose of touching first base.

[Abomination]

The plus side is that this controversy in the WS might be what baseball needed to fix the damn rule once and for all.

[Omar]

 

There are two exceptions. There are two exceptions (wrinkles, really) in Rule 5.09(a)(11). First, the runner is permitted to leave the running lane to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball. We know this already from what we've learned thus far about interference – that the fielder has the right of way in fielding a batted ball. Second, noticing that first base itself (the bag) is outside the running lane, the runner is permitted by rule to step out of the running lane for the purpose of touching first base.

 

...hence my comment that he stepped directly dead centre over first.

[Omar]

Looks like game 7 pending = more baseball = good for everyone.

[Beans]

Greinke with his hood over his head and that weird screwface he does, he looks a lot like Beavis when puts his t-shirt over the back of his head turns into Cornholio.

[TheHurl]

...hence my comment that he stepped directly dead centre over first.

 

"out of the running lane"

 

He has to be in the running lane first. It's clear in the rules.

[TheHurl]

a 7 game series with no home victories would be kind of cool. I would guess that it's never happened in any professional sport (purely guess have not looked it up)

[Beans]

You guessed right. They said in the broadcast that with the exception of NFL football it's never happened in any of the major professional sports before (MLB, NHL, and NBA).