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Brownie19 New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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https://blogs.fangraphs.com/ronald-acuna-and-the-40-40-club/

 

Interesting article on Acuna's chance to reach 40/40.

 

Also interesting to see the chart showing league average HR's and SB's per 600 PA's. I know it was a different time with guys throwing meatballs and playing against construction workers and dentists, but Ruth hitting 714 career HR's in a time where the average ML player hit 10 per 600 PA's is crazy.

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https://blogs.fangraphs.com/ronald-acuna-and-the-40-40-club/

 

Interesting article on Acuna's chance to reach 40/40.

 

Also interesting to see the chart showing league average HR's and SB's per 600 PA's. I know it was a different time with guys throwing meatballs and playing against construction workers and dentists, but Ruth hitting 714 career HR's in a time where the average ML player hit 10 per 600 PA's is crazy.

 

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For fear of reprisal I'm just gonna say that you clearly used the term "manager" in your original quote:

 

 

 

It was very clearly the batting coach.

 

He's just fishing for attention, don't mind him.

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Aaron Sanchez turning back into the lovable pumpkin he always was with us. Although at least hes giving the stros a few more innings:

 

5.0ip 4er 1bb 3so 2hr

 

Meh.

 

And in other ex Jays news Stro had a good start that was almost derailed by the Mets dumpster fire of a bullpen.

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Aaron Sanchez turning back into the lovable pumpkin he always was with us. Although at least hes giving the stros a few more innings:

 

5.0ip 4er 1bb 3so 2hr

 

Meh.

 

And in other ex Jays news Stro had a good start that was almost derailed by the Mets dumpster fire of a bullpen.

 

Stroman did not have a good start. His peripherals were terrible: 5 K, 4 BB, 2 HR in 5.1 IP. Easily his worst start as a Met.

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Stroman did not have a good start. His peripherals were terrible: 5 K, 4 BB, 2 HR in 5.1 IP. Easily his worst start as a Met.

 

Sanchize just gave up another bomb. And another, bomb!

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Blake Treinen last year: 0.78 ERA, 1.82 FIP, 25.1% K-BB%, 3.6 WAR. Just 2 homers given up in 80 innings, nearly unhittable (plus some luck of course).

Blake Treinen this season: 5.38 FIP, 1.48 K/BB, 8 HR in 50 innings, negative WAR.

 

Liam Hendriks 2018: 4.33 FIP, 11.5 K-BB%, 0.1 WAR

Liam Hendriks 2019: 1.85 FIP, 4.63 K/BB, 2.7 WAR

 

Relievers, not even once.

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By the way, guys, Pete Alonso went 5-5 today with a walk. He homered and drove in 6.

 

Mike Trout wanted to let Pete have this moment so he went a modest 4-4 with a HR and a walk.

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Sometimes you kind of roll your eyes when a manager is widely hated by the fanbase without much valid reasoning, and then you see quotes like this and you start to see where they're coming from:

 

Brownie19 New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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Sometimes you kind of roll your eyes when a manager is widely hated by the fan base without much valid reasoning, and then you see quotes like this and you start to see where they're coming from:

 

 

I would have thought going against the analytics 85% of the time would endear him to the fan base...

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I would have thought going against the analytics 85% of the time would endear him to the fan base...

 

The fanbase is ever evolving. 10 years ago the overwhelming majority would support going with your gut and using all the outdated managing practices...but today, more and more people seem to be supporting the math behind the decisions more and more.

Brownie19 New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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The fanbase is ever evolving. 10 years ago the overwhelming majority would support going with your gut and using all the outdated managing practices...but today, more and more people seem to be supporting the math behind the decisions more and more.

 

Strong disagree. Most fans are clueless.

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Strong disagree. Most fans are clueless.

 

Maybe I'm just extrapolating from my own experience and friends. I'm in my 40s so I grew up with the old school mentality, as did many of my baseball loving friends and acquaintances. And I'll be the first to tell you that my understanding of advanced analytics is a work in progress. I am learning (and want to learn) about what stats mean what, which are the most meaningful stats, and how to cite them properly. I have noticed that many of the people that I interact with have started quoting analytics and are also trying to get into that mindset. They were resistant for the longest time...and a lot of it was, 'baseball shouldn't be this complicated', 'I just want to watch the game and make decisions based on what I see', 'I want stats I can understand'...but they've come around and realize that these numbers aren't just made up, they're meant to augment the game and provide more context in what we're actually seeing on the field. Maybe I'm naively thinking that there are others that have made this determination as well.

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Maybe I'm just extrapolating from my own experience and friends. I'm in my 40s so I grew up with the old school mentality, as did many of my baseball loving friends and acquaintances. And I'll be the first to tell you that my understanding of advanced analytics is a work in progress. I am learning (and want to learn) about what stats mean what, which are the most meaningful stats, and how to cite them properly. I have noticed that many of the people that I interact with have started quoting analytics and are also trying to get into that mindset. They were resistant for the longest time...and a lot of it was, 'baseball shouldn't be this complicated', 'I just want to watch the game and make decisions based on what I see', 'I want stats I can understand'...but they've come around and realize that these numbers aren't just made up, they're meant to augment the game and provide more context in what we're actually seeing on the field. Maybe I'm naively thinking that there are others that have made this determination as well.

 

Interesting take - thanks for sharing.

 

I'm in my late 30's, so not far off you. I'm assistant coach for all 3 of my son's baseball teams, volunteer on the local minor baseball board and still play competitive hardball. I'm on a diamond 5 or 6 nights a week minimum - around the sport non-stop and among all my friends and teammates (who range in age from 20 to 40), I'm the champion for advanced analytics in baseball. I have some who ask me about certain players or Jays prospects and ask what I think about them (looking for a different perspective to what they see or read from the traditional statistics). I think some of the truly believe the advanced analytics work, but most don't really understand them well at all. That said, for the most part, most of the conversations I have with them is s*** like:

 

- shifts are stupid and are ruining the game

- why don't players bunt against the shift all the time. That's all I'd do if I were them

- I miss all the bunting, stealing and hitting/running

- why don't hitters use the whole field

- the Jays need a true leadoff hitter.

- Sanchez was a stud - he won the ERA title once

- I love Pillar. Great defense and a good hitter that gave you 15 hrs a year - what more could you ask for?

- the jays need more .300 hitters

- why didn't Atkins sign EE and JD long term - what an idiot

- why does Jansen keep playing - he can't hit.

- this opener thing is stupid.

- why did the Jays give away all their good players?

- who's Jordan Groshans?

 

It's a cesspool of people who are generally just really ignorant about baseball. I try and help/educate a few of my closest friends, but in general, I simply avoid all baseball discussions altogether. That's what this board is for.

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