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Lmao, just as Rogers start spending $$$ they look to dip, f***ing *******s. Probably was told how much Donaldson was looking for and how much payroll we have with Tulo and Martin going forward and said F that.

 

Whoever will buy the Jays will be a step down in terms of wealth. I wonder if the Dome is up for sale as part of the team too

 

Maybe MLSE will buy and have a monopoly on Toronto sports. Then they can sell the naming rights of the Blue Jays to Bombardier or something and have half the games split on TSN and Sportsnet. Aren't they 50/50 owned between Rogers and Bell though? If Rogers are selling would MLSE even be an option? That would just be selling half to Bell

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I f***ing hate Rogers.

 

The best type of owner is a billionaire that will spend whatever it takes to win. But those don't grow on trees.

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Yeah, you don't want a sportsteam owned by a public corporation, because shareholders don't invest to see a championship, they invest to see a return on their investment, so every decision the owner makes, has to be towards profit generation.

 

Instead, we need an egotistical asswipe, who doesn't give a s*** about money, and just wants to drive around in his Lambo, showing hoes his World Series rings.

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Yeah, you don't want a sportsteam owned by a public corporation, because shareholders don't invest to see a championship, they invest to see a return on their investment, so every decision the owner makes, has to be towards profit generation.

 

Instead, we need an egotistical asswipe, who doesn't give a s*** about money, and just wants to drive around in his Lambo, showing hoes his World Series rings.

 

lulz

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I believe several called me an idiot when I suggested that the continued increase in the team's valuation would tempt Rogers to sell. With the league TV deal up soon why risk it.
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Lmao, just as Rogers start spending $$$ they look to dip, f***ing *******s. Probably was told how much Donaldson was looking for and how much payroll we have with Tulo and Martin going forward and said F that.

 

Whoever will buy the Jays will be a step down in terms of wealth. I wonder if the Dome is up for sale as part of the team too

 

Maybe MLSE will buy and have a monopoly on Toronto sports. Then they can sell the naming rights of the Blue Jays to Bombardier or something and have half the games split on TSN and Sportsnet. Aren't they 50/50 owned between Rogers and Bell though? If Rogers are selling would MLSE even be an option? That would just be selling half to Bell

 

Absolutely, all you got to do is read this article to see that a rising Blue Jays payroll can have a direct effect on share prices compared to their how they report on their investment in MLSE.

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/no-love-for-blue-jays-in-rogerss-sports-spending-blame-an-accounting-rule/article28709405/

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Yeah I agree. We could do better but we could also do a whole lot worse.

 

Yeah I have always said Rogers, for as annoying as they can be, gets ragged on too much by the fanbase.

 

Non corporate ownership could be a great thing or it could be a rich meddler who wants to interfere in player decisions. You really don't know what you're going to get. At least now we know payroll will be relatively stable and ownership won't mess with Shapiro's decision making. That may not be the case with someone else.

 

I guess we just have to wait and see who they end up selling to.

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I believe several called me an idiot when I suggested that the continued increase in the team's valuation would tempt Rogers to sell. With the league TV deal up soon why risk it.

 

I'm sure any sale of the team would involve a lengthy deal for rogers to have the TV rates at a very favorable rate. The Thompson family owns the Jets, maybe they would be interested in dipping their toes into the baseball world.

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I always thought the Jays were profitable and the immense marketing that Rogers gets through the Blue Jays was invaluable. I guess when you're part of a near monopoly for service, marketing isn't as necessary and their are better investments out there for that money.

 

 

I worry this is bad for my Blue Jays, but good for my shares in Rogers - such a confusing dilemma.

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I'm sure any sale of the team would involve a lengthy deal for rogers to have the TV rates at a very favorable rate. The Thompson family owns the Jets, maybe they would be interested in dipping their toes into the baseball world.

 

MLB has a say in fair market value for TV Deals I’m pretty sure. They probably won’t get a cut price unless they sell the team for cheap. That’s why I think the MLSE will probably be the way to go, Rogers are going to have to probably pay an astronomical price for the Jays given their success in TV ratings and Nation-wide reach

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The Rogers empire is the 4th most wealthy in Canada. Sure we could end up with someone who is more aggressive with less money, but I'd feel safer if our deep pocketed ownership just hangs on.
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The Rogers empire is the 4th most wealthy in Canada. Sure we could end up with someone who is more aggressive with less money, but I'd feel safer if our deep pocketed ownership just hangs on.

 

Me too

 

No appetite for change in the next decade

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But if they do.... Katz and Gretzky

 

A billionaire business person putting up most of the money and staying behind the scenes and a sports hero putting up less money but being the face of ownership seems like a good concept (Dodgers and Marlins being recent examples)

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MLB has a say in fair market value for TV Deals I’m pretty sure. They probably won’t get a cut price unless they sell the team for cheap. That’s why I think the MLSE will probably be the way to go, Rogers are going to have to probably pay an astronomical price for the Jays given their success in TV ratings and Nation-wide reach

 

I just meant on the lower end of what is reasonable, and it would obviously effect the price. More important to Rogers would be a lengthy contract so they retain control of the TV rights.

 

Regardless having the richest family in Canada own the Jays wouldn't be a bad thing. They own a large portion of the Jets. They paid 77 million US for a painting in 2002. A 300 million dollar contract wouldn't even phase them! Hopefully they are baseball fans..lol. Wait, the Thompson family has a large position in Bell. Rogers would never sell to them.

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I just meant on the lower end of what is reasonable, and it would obviously effect the price. More important to Rogers would be a lengthy contract so they retain control of the TV rights.

 

Regardless having the richest family in Canada own the Jays wouldn't be a bad thing. They own a large portion of the Jets. They paid 77 million US for a painting in 2002. A 300 million dollar contract wouldn't even phase them! Hopefully they are baseball fans..lol. Wait, the Thompson family has a large position in Bell. Rogers would never sell to them.

 

Rogers and Bell are in bed together on a lot of things, they'll sell if they deem that's what it takes to improve their wireless and cable departments.

 

I was listening to 590 this morning and Brunt brought up a good point, one of the reasons Rogers could be selling the team is because of how the internet is continuing to eat away at cable. And they have a point, the CRTC already made rulings a couple of years ago about bundling and they're going to continue to try and give Canadians more options, plus with MLB.tv subscriber rates increasing and Google and Amazon looking like they're prepping for a battle on live sports, who knows if cable will be as profitable as it is now.

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Yeah, you don't want a sportsteam owned by a public corporation, because shareholders don't invest to see a championship, they invest to see a return on their investment, so every decision the owner makes, has to be towards profit generation.

 

Instead, we need an egotistical asswipe, who doesn't give a s*** about money, and just wants to drive around in his Lambo, showing hoes his World Series rings.

 

Alright boys we need to start pumping my stocks. Owning a sports team/Jays is on my bucket list.

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Rogers and Bell are in bed together on a lot of things, they'll sell if they deem that's what it takes to improve their wireless and cable departments.

 

I was listening to 590 this morning and Brunt brought up a good point, one of the reasons Rogers could be selling the team is because of how the internet is continuing to eat away at cable. And they have a point, the CRTC already made rulings a couple of years ago about bundling and they're going to continue to try and give Canadians more options, plus with MLB.tv subscriber rates increasing and Google and Amazon looking like they're prepping for a battle on live sports, who knows if cable will be as profitable as it is now.

 

Yes, it's funny that people think that these corporations are mortal enemies or something. There is so much employee turnover within the industry that they all remain friends and have lunch with each other as they move up the ranks in each corporation. I say that as someone who worked for one of the big telcos. I have kept in contact with more people who work for competitors now than I have with people still with my former employer.

 

Bell and Rogers would marry each other in a heart beat with all the execs collecting big bonus payouts and stock options on a temporary stock pump if the CRTC allowed it.

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