Neil Ramirez DFA'd

[Spanky99]

No I really don't think it was. You can't just give Ramirez a spot just because he doesn't have options. There's a more risk in doing that than in seeing if Ramirez can clear. He's a nice flyer to take and I hope he clears but I didn't make sense to just hand him a spot unless Tepera was really s***ing the bed. I don't love Tepera but somehow he seems to have managed to make himself serviceable. FIP under four last year and so far this year again. That's not great but it's not "demote so we can take a flyer on some guy who was legit terrible last year" level bad either. The way more sensible move here is to try to sneak Ramirez.

 

If he clears it's irrelevant. Not worth getting upset about. Tepera has had some good outings lately. Ramirez would not have pitched much. We can only afford to have so many pitchers trying to figure things out on our active roster. Grilli and Howell have been a disaster. Leone and Loup have been a dumpster fire of late. We need some kind of consistency and Tepera has done a good job of giving up mutiple scoreless innings.

 

I'll agree to disagree... also I'm not upset Jonn, that s*** isn't good for you.

[BTS]

No I really don't think it was. You can't just give Ramirez a spot just because he doesn't have options. There's a more risk in doing that than in seeing if Ramirez can clear. He's a nice flyer to take and I hope he clears but I didn't make sense to just hand him a spot unless Tepera was really s***ing the bed. I don't love Tepera but somehow he seems to have managed to make himself serviceable. FIP under four last year and so far this year again. That's not great but it's not "demote so we can take a flyer on some guy who was legit terrible last year" level bad either. The way more sensible move here is to try to sneak Ramirez.

 

I don't really care about this either way because they'll probably both be out of the majors by 2019, but I don't understand what risk you see with optioning Tepera to make room for a guy who might (and might not) be a bit better than Tepera but who doesn't have options. That's exactly what options are for and how teams use them: to yo-yo marginal players back and forth from AAA to suit their needs. Taking a flier on Ramirez is absolutely a valid reason for optioning Tepera. I mean, it's Ryan Tepera.

[KingKat]

I don't really care about this either way because they'll probably both be out of the majors by 2019, but I don't understand what risk you see with optioning Tepera to make room for a guy who might (and might not) be a bit better than Tepera but who doesn't have options. That's exactly what options are for and how teams use them: to yo-yo marginal players back and forth from AAA to suit their needs. Taking a flier on Ramirez is absolutely a valid reason for optioning Tepera. I mean, it's Ryan Tepera.

 

The obvious risk is that Ramirez could be a lot worse than Tepera who is at least mediocre. If Tepera was at the bottom of the pecking order, you'd have the luxury (though I'm not sure I would advocate using it) of not caring about Tepera but because Biagini is in the rotation, because Grilli and Howell are gas-canning it up, Tepera is a guy who is out there protecting leads. Even if he's no better than mediocre that doesn't mean it makes sense to hand his job to a project. I get that Ramirez has upside but we've been down that road before. Jeremy Jeffress had potential, that doesn't mean it was worth it to throw him out there because eventually someone would capitalize on his talent. Unless you have strong reason to believe he can provide an immediate improvement over Tepera (and there's no particular reason to believe that), the prudent move is to try to get him to the mimors and develop him there and if he doesn't clear, you move on. You can't capitalize on every uspide play that's out there. Sometimes you have to just le the Jeremy Jeffress and the Neil Ramirezes of the world go.

[Bobthe4th]

[Jonn]

 

Lame.