GDT: 2/4. Theeeeeeeeee Toronto Bluejays vs Tampa Bay Rays. 7.10pm.

[Stangstag]

 

Holy hell I hope that was just a troll

[RealAccountant]

One or two of Leone, Tepera or Loup will be taking a plane to Buffalo after tonight to get a fresh arm(s) for tomorrow's game.. games like this can tax a pen. Really need 6 good innings from the Sanchize tomorrow..

 

Howell

[ChrisS]

I'm at work and couldn't watch the game but seems like people are overreacting again. Liriano will be fine. I thought it was a dumb idea for him to pitch without Martin behind the plate.

[Daniel Labude]

I'm at work and couldn't watch the game but seems like people are overreacting again. Liriano will be fine. I thought it was a dumb idea for him to pitch without Martin behind the plate.

 

Bad decison by Gibby, but Liriano will bounce back

[mtljaysfan]

Well we got Gibbby 1.0 tonite, instead of the Gibby 2.0 we all loved and enjoyed so much for the first 3 games(even with the first 2 loses).

 

-Not having Martin catching Liriano

-Let Liriano and Howell s*** the bed for too long when it was so bloody obbvious ther got nothing going

 

I'd rather have a good defensive catcher, than this s***** Salty.

[Stangstag]

I'm at work and couldn't watch the game but seems like people are overreacting again. Liriano will be fine. I thought it was a dumb idea for him to pitch without Martin behind the plate.

 

Bad decison by Gibby, but Liriano will bounce back

 

Well we got Gibbby 1.0 tonite, instead of the Gibby 2.0 we all loved and enjoyed so much for the first 3 games(even with the first 2 loses).

 

-Not having Martin catching Liriano

-Let Liriano and Howell s*** the bed for too long when it was so bloody obbvious ther got nothing going

 

I'd rather have a good defensive catcher, than this s***** Salty.

 

Jesus christ, did you guys even watch the game? NO catcher was going to do anything to stop that meltdown by Liriano.

[Boxcar]

Well we got Gibbby 1.0 tonite, instead of the Gibby 2.0 we all loved and enjoyed so much for the first 3 games(even with the first 2 loses).

 

-Not having Martin catching Liriano

-Let Liriano and Howell s*** the bed for too long when it was so bloody obbvious ther got nothing going

 

I'd rather have a good defensive catcher, than this s***** Salty.

 

What was Gibby supposed to do? Every time a reliever shits the bed for 2-3 batters, replace them? Are you aware that there are a finite number of relievers available in the bullpen?

 

Saltalamacchia catching Liriano had absolutely nothing to do with his performance. Liriano just has a start here and there where he loses his control completely.

 

Gibby was fine tonight. His players didn't perform, any time you need to pull your starter in the first inning, you're kind of up against the wall. I don't think he's done anything that I'd complain about so far this season. He's been excellent.

[FrozenRopes]

Jesus christ, did you guys even watch the game? NO catcher was going to do anything to stop that meltdown by Liriano.

 

The right catcher can make all the difference. I disagree with your statement.

[SaskJaysFan_2]

The right catcher can make all the difference. I disagree with your statement.

 

The right catcher can't play all 162 games in that position, either.

[burlingtonbandit]

What was Gibby supposed to do? Every time a reliever shits the bed for 2-3 batters, replace them? Are you aware that there are a finite number of relievers available in the bullpen?

 

Saltalamacchia catching Liriano had absolutely nothing to do with his performance. Liriano just has a start here and there where he loses his control completely.

 

Gibby was fine tonight. His players didn't perform, any time you need to pull your starter in the first inning, you're kind of up against the wall. I don't think he's done anything that I'd complain about so far this season. He's been excellent.

 

Going to Howell for that long was a bad move IMO. Clear after 2 batters he didn't have it yet was left in to face another 3(2?). Howell shouldn't be facing any RHB, Loup is the one you want to use against both types of batters.

[Daniel Labude]

Jesus christ, did you guys even watch the game? NO catcher was going to do anything to stop that meltdown by Liriano.

 

Never said it would have made a difference...its still a bad decision no matter what

[Spanky99]

The right catcher can make all the difference. I disagree with your statement.

 

Of course a catcher makes a difference, but not in a third of an inning is what he's saying. That was all on Liriano, he just didn't have it.

[glory]

Yeah, Salty is s***, but no way he was responsible for Liriano pitching like that.

 

Liriano will probably have games like this throughout the season, as well as stretches where he looks like an ace. That's just who he is.

[BTS]

What was Gibby supposed to do? Every time a reliever shits the bed for 2-3 batters, replace them? Are you aware that there are a finite number of relievers available in the bullpen?

 

Saltalamacchia catching Liriano had absolutely nothing to do with his performance. Liriano just has a start here and there where he loses his control completely.

 

Gibby was fine tonight. His players didn't perform, any time you need to pull your starter in the first inning, you're kind of up against the wall. I don't think he's done anything that I'd complain about so far this season. He's been excellent.

 

My only issue with him yesterday is that Howell isn't someone you tell to go out an pitch an inning regardless of who is up. He's a situational lefty.

[BTS]

Never said it would have made a difference...its still a bad decision no matter what

 

Over the course of three games Martin got hit on the bare hand twice and had a knee on knee collision on home. I don't think it's fair to criticize Gibby for giving him a day off. We have no idea what was said behind closed doors.

 

I do wish the backup catcher was someone who isn't Saltalamacchia though.

[RealAccountant]

Over the course of three games Martin got hit on the bare hand twice and had a knee on knee collision on home. I don't think it's fair to criticize Gibby for giving him a day off. We have no idea what was said behind closed doors.

 

I do wish the backup catcher was someone who isn't Saltalamacchia though.

 

Is there a pitcher on this pitching staff who needs Martin more than Liriano?

 

The right call should have been to start Salty with Stroman

[Boxcar]

My only issue with him yesterday is that Howell isn't someone you tell to go out an pitch an inning regardless of who is up. He's a situational lefty.

 

I'm going to forgive him for that because at the end of the day, he needed his bullpen to cover nearly a full 9 innings.