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[King]

If the reports that the Twins wanted De Leon and a single lesser prospect for Dozier are true, then I think that the Dodgers made a mistake.

What reports?

 

Twins wanted De Leon, Alvarez/Buehler and some lower level flyers. Dodgers didn't want to give up more than De Leon and lower level flyers.

 

http://www.fanragsports.com/mlb/heyman-dodgers-twins-standstill-dozier-trade-talks/

[Dr. Dinger]

LA will probably get about 4 WAR total out of Forsythe for 6 years of De Leon. I really love this deal for Tampa. Frankly I'm surprised Friedman & co would do that.

[burlingtonbandit]

LA will probably get about 4 WAR total out of Forsythe for 6 years of De Leon. I really love this deal for Tampa. Frankly I'm surprised Friedman & co would do that.

 

I think LA doesn't believe in his health.

[burlingtonbandit]

Some people s*** on the event but I like it. That group of position players is going to be really fun to watch. Just imagine Trout and Harper were on there too.

 

[TheHurl]

LA will probably get about 4 WAR total out of Forsythe for 6 years of De Leon. I really love this deal for Tampa. Frankly I'm surprised Friedman & co would do that.

 

Well covered here. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-dodgers-decision-to-be-intentionally-inefficient/

 

They spent a year building depth and shedding payroll, while remaining a contender. Taking a value hit here on an inexpensive guy, while upping their overall projections, is an understandable move IMO.

[jerb]

 

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Rockies are making a big push for Greg Holland, and word is they are getting close to a deal

[Dr. Dinger]

Some people s*** on the event but I like it. That group of position players is going to be really fun to watch. Just imagine Trout and Harper were on there too.

 

 

LOL @ Hosmer making the team over Freeman and Freeman playing for Canada instead.

[jaysfan2014]

Adam Rosales signs a 1-year deal with Oakland.

[HERPDERP]

Holland with a vesting option

 

I would've wanted that, but I doubt he would have came here as the set up guy

[xposbrad]

Holland with a vesting option

 

I would've wanted that, but I doubt he would have came here as the set up guy

 

And his numbers will be good in Colorado? I mean, that's a high upside risk Shatkins should have been all over. Him and Ross have tremendous upside.

[RealAccountant]

Holland with a vesting option

 

I would've wanted that, but I doubt he would have came here as the set up guy

 

HERPDERP;1112146]Holland with a vesting option

 

I would've wanted that, but I doubt he would have came here as the set up guy

 

So whats wrong with asking OSuna to be the set up man,

[burlingtonbandit]

LOL @ Hosmer making the team over Freeman and Freeman playing for Canada instead.

 

Doesn't really matter, Goldschmidt is going to be the starter anyway. Perhaps Freeman wanted to start.

[Ray]

Is Holland gonna play 1B for the Rockies?

[Spanky__99]

LOL @ Hosmer making the team over Freeman and Freeman playing for Canada instead.

 

He wanted to play for Canada, no?

[Spanky__99]

Is Holland gonna play 1B for the Rockies?

 

Wat... or is this going over my head?

[Ray]

Wat... or is this going over my head?

 

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2016/12/15/13965994/rockies-ian-desmond-charlie-blackmon-trade-rumors

[Spanky__99]

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2016/12/15/13965994/rockies-ian-desmond-charlie-blackmon-trade-rumors

 

So humour? I know about the Rox situation with Desmond, but...

[Brownie19]

Yes.

 

- Great value for Tampa.

- Not bad for LA considering context.

- LA might have informed reservations or concerns about De Leon.

- Tampa has so much pitching depth this year! Wow! And a very strong top end.

 

That's pretty much it.

 

Would anyone here have supported a Devon Travis for De Leon trade?

[Dr. Dinger]

Would anyone here have supported a Devon Travis for De Leon trade?

 

Probably not. Travis posted 4.8 WAR in his first 163 games and is under control for twice as long as Dozier and Forsythe, plus we have no viable replacement for him and a full rotation of starters. It would be a multi-win hit to our 2017 roster.

[Laika]

Would anyone here have supported a Devon Travis for De Leon trade?

 

In a nutshell, yes.

 

In the Blue Jays context, probably not.

[Dr. Dinger]

In a nutshell, yes.

 

In the Blue Jays context, probably not.

 

You would trade 4 seasons of a 3-4 WAR second baseman in his mid 20s for 6 years of an unproven pitching prospect? That doesn't seem very wise.

[jerb]

 

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Source: Indians closing in on an agreement with Austin Jackson. Would give them RHed hitting center fielder they've been looking for.

[BTS]

 

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Source: Indians closing in on an agreement with Austin Jackson. Would give them RHed hitting center fielder they've been looking for.

 

I wanted him.

[jerb]

 

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The Indians' agreement with Austin Jackson is a minor-league deal

[burlingtonbandit]

His knee must be f***ed for him to only get a minor league deal.

[Laika]

You would trade 4 seasons of a 3-4 WAR second baseman in his mid 20s for 6 years of an unproven pitching prospect? That doesn't seem very wise.

 

I'm not as high on Travis as others, anymore. At least not as high as I was a year ago.

 

I think he's an average 2B.

[Dr. Dinger]

I'm not as high on Travis as others, anymore. At least not as high as I was a year ago.

 

I think he's an average 2B.

 

He just had 2.5 WAR in 60% of a season. My only concern is health, and even then I'd be more worried about a pitcher's health.

[jerb]

 

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austin jackson has a deal with the indians. $1.5M base on minors deal off injury year, plus $4M incentives

[burlingtonbandit]

He just had 2.5 WAR in 60% of a season. My only concern is health, and even then I'd be more worried about a pitcher's health.

 

His batted ball profile isn't great. Lots of weak contact on the ground.

[Ray]

So humour? I know about the Rox situation with Desmond, but...

 

Yeah, it might've fallen a bit flat....