Indians sign Encarnacion

[IBTrini]

Kinzer wanted 5/125.

 

Kinzer misjudged the market as did others (Bautista fell into that trap as well) and Encarnacion misjudged Kinzer - circle of confusion, "money". I know, this is cryptic.

[IBTrini]

It sounds like they didn't tell him they were moving on

When you say you will be pulling your offer off the table if it is not accepted within a time-frame that is usually signals a "moving on" approach.

[RealAccountant]

Bluejays big losers when it comes to Edwin according to Griffin

 

tps://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2016/12/22/edwin-encarnacion-agrees-to-3-year-deal-in-cleveland-reports.html

[Manny Lees Barber]

Bluejays big losers when it comes to Edwin according to Griffin

 

tps://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2016/12/22/edwin-encarnacion-agrees-to-3-year-deal-in-cleveland-reports.html

 

 

Whew.

 

I was worried that "Griffin" was Alfredo Griffin, but it turns out it's just some guy named Richard.

 

Hardly an authority!

[Dick_Pole]

Raptors lose Eastern Conference semis to the Cavs.

Jays lose to the Tribe in the ALCS.

Jays lose EE to them as well.

 

This is so tragic. I cannot take this anymore. Cleveland is a shithole. It doesn't deserve nice things and we have to stop losing to them. All that city deserves is the Browns. The NFL team and the stuff in the toilet.

[Krylian]

Raptors lose Eastern Conference semis to the Cavs.

Jays lose to the Tribe in the ALCS.

Jays lose EE to them as well.

 

This is so tragic. I cannot take this anymore. Cleveland is a shithole. It doesn't deserve nice things and we have to stop losing to them. All that city deserves is the Browns. The NFL team and the stuff in the toilet.

 

And the Indians lost Shapiro and Atkins to Toronto.

[RealAccountant]

And the Indians lost Shapiro and Atkins to Toronto.

 

They seem to be doing much better after dropping the dead weight

[Dick_Pole]

And the Indians lost Shapiro and Atkins to Toronto.

 

I'm not so sure Cleveland is all that upset about losing its only Jew.

[Jonn]

We are taking so many losses to Cleveland and its usually Cleveland taking losses against everyone else.

[Dick_Pole]

We are taking so many losses to Cleveland and its usually Cleveland taking losses against everyone else.

 

Cleveland has been punishing us ever since Geddy Lee got into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

[bzapple]

ECJF has become a Sportsnet comments level casual lol

 

As he's always been, whenever something dramatic happens.

[bzapple]

I would have preferred this to Morales at 3/33, but honestly I don't see it as a huge difference. It made sense for Edwin to turn down the Jays offer in order to test the market, as is his right. The Jays acted quickly on other options in order to avoid missing out. There's something to be said for getting things done quickly. It's not an ideal situation, but it's an adequate one, and there's plenty of offseason left. Kind of weird to see some of the posters who have been around a while reacting so emotionally to this. It's just how the market played out.

 

I would still like to see them bring back Bautista at the right price, however, as I do believe in some degree of loyalty.

[BigCecil]

Disappointed to lose Edwin but the FO did make a major offer to him that he rejected. I thought it was an overpay at 4/80. Truly sucks to lose an icon who gave us some great moments. I still watch his WC HR against the 0's at least twice a week. Suck it Buck.

 

We get a pick and pray that Morales(who we probably gave an extra year to the way the market broke) smashes the ball at the RC from both sides of the plate. I do like the fact he is a SH.

 

It sucks emotionally but I'm ok with this as a fan, and can't be upset with the FO.

 

 

Remembering Edwin Encarnacion’s five best Blue Jays moments

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/remembering-edwin-encarnacions-five-best-blue-jays-moments/

[Gary]

How is Cleveland's home park, compared to Rogers Centre?

 

I think both Pearce and Morales have better seasons next year, compared to EE.

[burlingtonbandit]

How is Cleveland's home park, compared to Rogers Centre?

 

I think both Pearce and Morales have better seasons next year, compared to EE.

 

HR factor of 95 for RH hitters.

[Terminator]

Ouch, 3 for 65 with an option stings. I understand Atkins moving on after the initial offer but this one was a mistake on his part. He didn't have to sign Morales so quickly. Instead of EE at a fair price he gave 41 million to DH/1B bats in Morales and Smoak. I guess hindsight is 20/20.

 

We have money to spend, what is Atkins going to do with it at this point? The Pearce signing was brilliant but this offseason has been a huge dud so far.

[Jonn]

That wall might steal a few of his homeruns but he crushes balls. He's just going to have to adjust to playing in the cold more often.

[burlingtonbandit]

 

So his Agent is terrible. Who the hell goes on radio to say this after he signed?

[Jonn]

Weirdest free agent case ever. I seriously doubt Edwin can be that happy but Cleveland should make the playoffs easily.

[Terminator]

 

So his Agent is terrible. Who the hell goes on radio to say this after he signed?

 

His agent sure does talk a lot.

[burlingtonbandit]

His agent sure does talk a lot.

 

I'm not sure it has benefited his client once either. Obvious he isn't going to get any more star players with how badly he has handled Edwin.

[burlingtonbandit]

Like Oakland will be pissed that he leaked this info. As an agent you don't go make public what other teams offered.

[Frenchsoup]

Nice move for the Indians.

[Terminator]

Obvious he isn't going to get any more star players with how badly he has handled Edwin.

 

That's a big assumption. He's been a pretty big agent for a while.

[RealAccountant]

 

I think both Pearce and Morales have better seasons next year, compared to EE.

 

Lol

[burlingtonbandit]

That's a big assumption. He's been a pretty big agent for a while.

 

His clients have been shrinking to the point now where Jeff Mathis and Dustin McGowan are his highest paid clients outside of Edwin.

 

http://www.baseballplayersalaries.com/agents/62_Paul_Kinzer

[Terminator]

His clients have been shrinking to the point now where Jeff Mathis and Dustin McGowan are his highest paid clients outside of Edwin.

 

http://www.baseballplayersalaries.com/agents/62_Paul_Kinzer

 

Neither of those two are his clients.

 

http://rep1baseball.com/clients/

[Pendleton]

They seem to be doing much better after dropping the dead weight

 

Where did Cleveland's returning core players come from?

[burlingtonbandit]

Neither of those two are his clients.

 

http://rep1baseball.com/clients/

 

Thanks for the link. His client list still looks pretty meh. Castro got a nice sized contract but outside of that there isn't much $ there.

[TheHurl]

Neither of those two are his clients.

 

http://rep1baseball.com/clients/

 

Got to wonder how a guy from Douglasville, Georgia becomes one of the most influential agents in Latin America.

 

Must say that I do respect that he's written his daughter-in-law's title as Equipment and Client Servicing.