intentional wok Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2016 Posted December 7, 2016 Seems like turning the heat way up on Edwin's agent, that he "doesn't see it" even after rejecting $80M off the bat and failing to land his client something better among any of the potential suitors thus far.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted December 7, 2016 Posted December 7, 2016 Just saw a tweet mention that the Jays wouldn't do a Stroman for Blackmon deal straight up...seems like we want more than Blackman. What else could they add for it to work? Edit: same tweet posted earlier...just saw the straight up part
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2016 Posted December 7, 2016 That kind of a trade would make me sick. Our SP strength is our only shot at a wild card
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2016 Posted December 7, 2016 I love how this FO is willing to discuss behind the scenes details. It's refreshing.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2016 Posted December 7, 2016 I love how this FO is willing to discuss behind the scenes details. It's refreshing. Most teams probably asked for names like Sanchez, Stroman or Travis when it came to talks on guys like Sale, Eaton, Blackmon and others.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Haven't seen this posted... from Atkins earlier today.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 I find that a little difficult to believe. Would the White Sox have turned down Aldord, Vladdy, SRF, Pompey,Urena and Mcguire?
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 I find that a little difficult to believe. Would the White Sox have turned down Aldord, Vladdy, SRF, Pompey,Urena and Mcguire? Maybe not...but that completely guts your system for 2-3 seasons and making any other trades almost impossible.
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 I find that a little difficult to believe. Would the White Sox have turned down Aldord, Vladdy, SRF, Pompey,Urena and Mcguire? I would have lol. I get what you're saying, but I don't think Atkins/Shapiro would want any of that. With them, we may actually see the likes of those players become major leaguers with us, for a change.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 I find that a little difficult to believe. Would the White Sox have turned down Aldord, Vladdy, SRF, Pompey,Urena and Mcguire? Is Aldord in todd's top 106?
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Stroman will be traded this offseason. I saw a tweet of him
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Like Deck McGuire? lol... fail.
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 8, 2016 Author Posted December 8, 2016 I find that a little difficult to believe. Would the White Sox have turned down Aldord, Vladdy, SRF, Pompey,Urena and Mcguire? That's definitely worse than the Sale package and probably worse than the Eaton package to someone who sees Giolito as a star.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 I wouldn't have done that trade myself just saying they "have" the prospects to make a deal, even though no GM is going to offer the amount of prospects it would take as it kills your system.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 That's definitely worse than the Sale package and probably worse than the Eaton package to someone who sees Giolito as a star. I think there are some Front Offices who take that Jays package. Five top 10 Position player prospects in a good system in 1 deal is a haul.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 I love how this FO is willing to discuss behind the scenes details. It's refreshing. Insider info: Edwin: You better get me that deal you had me decline with my team of choice or you're f***ed. Kinzer: Don't worry Edwin I got you. Don't listen to the s*** you're hearing. Kinzer Calls Atkins: Ross you gotta help me out man. Please put that deal back on the table. Edwin loves Toronto man lets do this. Atkins: We have moved on Paul. I just don't see a fit any longer at that price. Kinzer: Ross man you know Edwin only wants to walk that Parrot in Toronto. This is on me Ross. Don't let Edwin pay for my mistake. Atkins: I wish you all the best Paul. I hope Edwin gets the 100+ million you feel he would get. (hangs up) Kinzer: f***!!!!!!!!!!!! Edwin: What happened? Kinzer: Nothing everything's fine. You just get ready for 2017!
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 8, 2016 Author Posted December 8, 2016 I think there are some Front Offices who take that Jays package. Five top 10 Position player prospects in a good system in 1 deal is a haul. It's a bunch of guys that most people would have in the 50-150 range of prospects. Guys like that aren't rare. Guys like Moncada are.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 It's a bunch of guys that most people would have in the 50-150 range of prospects. Guys like that aren't rare. Guys like Moncada are. Yeah you can't just throw in a bunch of Top 100 prospects add it all up and expect it to beat a package that includes a Top 3 prospect.
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Insider info: Edwin: You better get me that deal you had me decline with my team of choice or you're f***ed. Kinzer: Don't worry Edwin I got you. Don't listen to the s*** you're hearing. Kinzer Calls Atkins: Ross you gotta help me out man. Please put that deal back on the table. Edwin loves Toronto man lets do this. Atkins: We have moved on Paul. I just don't see a fit any longer at that price. Kinzer: Ross man you know Edwin only wants to walk that Parrot in Toronto. This is on me Ross. Don't let Edwin pay for my mistake. Atkins: I wish you all the best Paul. I hope Edwin gets the 100+ million you feel he would get. (hangs up) Kinzer: f***!!!!!!!!!!!! Edwin: What happened? Kinzer: Nothing everything's fine. You just get ready for 2017! Who can we offload smoak on? Let's sign Edwin on a 1 for 20 and play Pearce in left.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Who can we offload smoak on? Let's sign Edwin on a 1 for 20 and play Pearce in left. Sounds good where do I sign?
ChrisS Verified Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Who can we offload smoak on? Let's sign Edwin on a 1 for 20 and play Pearce in left. Edwin would never sign a 1/20 at this point and he shouldnt either. His agent goofed up, screwed his client and us Blue Jay fans over. We would have EE and Pearce instead of Morales and Pearce and still likely going after Fowler too. Pipe dream but If we could sign Jose and Fowler at the right price that would be good too.
King Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Just curious has Adam Eaton ever been in a legit trade rumour? This is the only place I hear his name. Don't understand why they would trade him unless they get blown away so I don't even understand why he would be a target. He would certainly be nice to have though! And he gets traded 2 days later after being involved in trade rumours all offseason. Please try to keep up Jonn.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 And he gets traded 2 days later after being involved in trade rumours all offseason. Please try to keep up Jonn. Honestly I look at twitter daily and 90% of the time his named pop up was on this board. Than the Nats blew their load for him. I'm fine with what I said.
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Edwin would never sign a 1/20 at this point and he shouldnt either. I was joking, but his market seems to be insanely stagnant for a guy who's been as consistent as he has need with the bat for so many years
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Honestly I look at twitter daily and 90% of the time his named pop up was on this board. Than the Nats blew their load for him. I'm fine with what I said. Happy Birthday
ChrisS Verified Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 I was joking, but his market seems to be insanely stagnant for a guy who's been as consistent as he has need with the bat for so many years It is kind of odd. A few weeks back most of us scoffed at the jays offer of 4/80. We thought it was fair but nowhere near good enough to match a few other teams.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Honestly I look at twitter daily and 90% of the time his named pop up was on this board. Than the Nats blew their load for him. I'm fine with what I said. Happy Birthday, meat!
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Happy Birthday Happy Birthday, meat! Thanks fellas. And a Happy Hump Day to you.
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