GDT..Toronto Blue Jays (Sanchez) @ New York Yankees (Cessa) 7:05PM (Game 2/3)

[gruber92]

1. Bautista (RF)

2. Donaldson (3B)

3. Encarnacion (DH)

4. Martin ©

5. Tulowitzki (SS)

6. Saunders (LF)

7. Pillar (CF)

8. Smoak (1B)

9. Travis (2B)

 

Sanchez (13-2, 2.88 ERA) SP

 

 

 

Travis batting ninth behind the likes of Smoak and Pillar is beyond anything that is logical in the universe.

 

Let's take this f***ing series..

[burlingtonbandit]

Travis should hit 7th. I actually prefer him down in the order and Bautista leading odd but doesn't really make sense for him to be hitting 9th. Glad to see Upton out of the lineup vs RHP.

[RealAccountant]

Must win

[gruber92]

Travis should hit 7th. I actually prefer him down in the order and Bautista leading odd but doesn't really make sense for him to be hitting 9th. Glad to see Upton out of the lineup vs RHP.

 

I think the team is stronger with Upton and his defence in LF, opposed to having two pylons in the corners. Upton i think is coming around a bit vs RHP (2 hits vs Tanaka yesterday), while Smoak is just pure s*** with no speed and average defence.

[G-Snarls]

Win this MF game

[fatcowxlive]

Travis should hit 7th. I actually prefer him down in the order and Bautista leading odd but doesn't really make sense for him to be hitting 9th. Glad to see Upton out of the lineup vs RHP.

 

Saunders breaking out of his s*** spell lets us finally try this platoon thing!

[Jimcanuck]

I think the team is stronger with Upton and his defence in LF, opposed to having two pylons in the corners. Upton i think is coming around a bit vs RHP (2 hits vs Tanaka yesterday), while Smoak is just pure s*** with no speed and average defence.

 

Agree with this. Smoak deserves to be riding pine.

[Grant77]

Lots of lineup discussion lately so here is our ideal lineup using fangraphs ROS projections and Upton instead of Smoak.

 

5.401

Donaldson

Encarnacion

Tulowitzki

Bautista

Saunders

Pillar

Travis

Upton

Martin

[Jimcanuck]

Lots of lineup discussion lately so here is our ideal lineup using fangraphs ROS projections and Upton instead of Smoak.

 

5.401

Donaldson

Encarnacion

Tulowitzki

Bautista

Saunders

Pillar

Travis

Upton

Martin

 

Martin is last due to lack of speed?

[Terminator]

Lots of lineup discussion lately so here is our ideal lineup using fangraphs ROS projections and Upton instead of Smoak.

 

5.401

Donaldson

Encarnacion

Tulowitzki

Bautista

Saunders

Pillar

Travis

Upton

Martin

 

Pillar at 6? How can that be?

[BigCecil]

I think the team is stronger with Upton and his defence in LF, opposed to having two pylons in the corners. Upton i think is coming around a bit vs RHP (2 hits vs Tanaka yesterday), while Smoak is just pure s*** with no speed and average defence.

 

Ya. That makes sense. Upton also reached the short porch in RF last time we played there I think. I don't think Upton has played that well on D, but the corner OF is really bad with those 2.

[Orgfiller]

Martin is last due to lack of speed?

 

I don't think speed has much to do with it. Martin projects as a league average bat with a high-ish OBP. Without checking I would assume Donaldson through Saunders project better (overall batting line, matchups aside), then I think it's more beneficial to a team to have the best hitter in the 7-9 portion hit last because he would then act as a second leadoff hitter of sorts for the elite top of the order once the lineup turns over.

 

Edit: This is speculation based on what little I know about lineup optimization.

[gruber92]

Lots of lineup discussion lately so here is our ideal lineup using fangraphs ROS projections and Upton instead of Smoak.

 

5.401

Donaldson

Encarnacion

Tulowitzki

Bautista

Saunders

Pillar

Travis

Upton

Martin

 

Pillar ahead of Travis and Martin makes no sense.

[Orgfiller]

I'll link this right here: http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/3/17/795946/optimizing-your-lineup-by

 

Spots Six Through Nine

 

The old-school book says the rest of the lineup should be written in based on decreasing talent. Hitting ninth is an insult.

 

The Book basically agrees, with a caveat. Stolen bases are most valuable ahead of high-contact singles hitters, who are more likely to hit at the bottom of the lineup. So a base-stealing threat who doesn't deserve a spot higher in the lineup is optimized in the #6 hole, followed by the singles hitters.[/Quote]

 

As the likely best projected baserunner on the team, this would explain Pillar (likely interchangeable with Upton) as the #6 hitter with Travis following right up.

[Grant77]

Pillar at 6? How can that be?

 

I won't pretend to understand, but feel free to play around. I will note that if you switched Pillar and Martin, for example, it would be like .01 runs per game maybe. The top of the lineup leads to bigger changes.

 

http://www.baseballmusings.com/cgi-bin/LineupAnalysis.py

[Vialotor]

Lets just start f***ing winning.

[Grant77]

I'll link this right here: http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/3/17/795946/optimizing-your-lineup-by

 

 

 

As the likely best projected baserunner on the team, this would explain Pillar (likely interchangeable with Upton) as the #6 hitter with Travis following right up.

 

Using their logic, I come up with something like this:

 

Bautista (OBP)

Donaldson (best hitter)

Saunders/Tulo (4th best hitter)

Encarnacion (best power hitter)

Tulo/Saunders

Martin

Upton (best base runner?)

Travis (good contact hitter)

Pillar

 

This changes based on how you project them. Maybe Travis is better than Martin, it just seems to fit better.

[o2cui2i]

Using their logic, I come up with something like this:

 

Bautista (OBP)

Donaldson (best hitter)

Saunders/Tulo (4th best hitter)

Encarnacion (best power hitter)

Tulo/Saunders

Martin

Upton (best base runner?)

Travis (good contact hitter)

Pillar

 

This changes based on how you project them. Maybe Travis is better than Martin, it just seems to fit better.

 

Gibbons has a scientific system that is so beyond anything metrics projections can forecast

 

http://librarylink.regent.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/drawing.jpg

 

 

I'd have a picture of him pulling names out of something other than a hat but there are women and children who might be damaged for life by such a picture.

[FrozenRopes]

Must win

 

Every game for the rest of the season

[closetjaysfan]

No Doppler? this GDT sucks

[el duque]

I would keep José's power for RBIs and put him either third or fourth

[Daniel Labude]

The Homerun Contest playoff starts tonight

 

Still missing picks from:

 

Vdub, Deadpool, L54, labadee, FrozenRopes, Dylan, and Angrioter

[Jonn]

Yankess should be disqualified for wearing white after labor day

[el duque]

Cessa reminds me Andy Pettitte

[Jonn]

Cessa reminds me Andy Pettitte

 

Looks?

[Vialotor]

Bautista costing himself millions.

[el duque]

Looks?

both looks and the moving fastball

[Spanky99]

LETS GO BLUE JAYS *CLAP, CLAP* *CLAP, CLAP, CLAP*

 

LETS GO BLUE JAYS *CLAP, CLAP* *CLAP, CLAP, CLAP*

 

LETS GO BLUE JAYS *CLAP, CLAP* *CLAP, CLAP, CLAP*

 

[Effit]

Oh god not another K parade please.

[Jonn]

Throw any random scrub we haven't seen before they look like complete s*** the first time through