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Starting pitchers: Dickey vs. Green

 

Lineups after

 

Amaretto ftw

 

Dickey starts are always nerve racking for me, you just never know what direction they are going to take, eight solid inning or an offering of wild pitchs, walks and getting hit hard. Glad for this series I decided to make my one road trip of the season for Tuesday and Wednesday, knowing now Estrada and Happ will be starting.

 

After the show the Jays offence put on today, will be fun to see them in the Bronx, shwoing us how it's done.

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Who is Green?

 

He's kind of interesting. Never had much hype as a Yankees prospect (and was in the tigers system before) but he's been decent in the 27IP this year. Just so frigging unlucky with his HR/FB ratio.

 

He was one of two pitching prospects the Yankees got back for Justin Wilson

 

Edit: Bluejays actually drafted him in 2010 but he never signed

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Good work Frozen. You might want to take the week off work. We're going streaking!

 

Like I said, I wanted to skip the Dickey game, but I took one for the team. 200+ innings of suck better not let me down.

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Like I said, I wanted to skip the Dickey game, but I took one for the team. 200+ innings of suck better not let me down.

 

 

He just faced them 2 weeks ago and went 7IP 1ER 0BB. Hopefully it's consistent again today.

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He just faced them 2 weeks ago and went 7IP 1ER 0BB. Hopefully it's consistent again today.

 

If there was one word I could use to describe RA, it won't be "consistent".

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Atleast we don't have to face Tanaka. We usually always get Tanaka. Have to take care of business. Red Sox are coming and the Orioles just keep finding ways to hang around.
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My God... Dickey's RA9-WAR has hit a brick wall... he might not even be worth his contract this season. I'm thinking it's 4th and 40, time to punt.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1245&position=P#value

 

I've not been as aggressive as so many on RA, and am coming out of the closet to admit I started an appreciation thread last year. But has been very bad and the narrative that he finishes strong is not showing up in the numbers. I'd love to see us skip his starts. But that throws us right back into the IP issues for Sanchez and Stro.

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I've not been as aggressive as so many on RA, and am coming out of the closet to admit I started an appreciation thread last year. But has been very bad and the narrative that he finishes strong is not showing up in the numbers. I'd love to see us skip his starts. But that throws us right back into the IP issues for Sanchez and Stro.

 

Yeah, I've always had his back, but his value is plummeting, not quite to the point of skipping his starts for the exact reason you've posted. The conversation of having him on our roster next year seems ridiculous to me at this point, especially since we've acquired Liriano. It'll be an interesting offseason.

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Yeah, I've always had his back, but his value is plummeting, not quite to the point of skipping his starts for the exact reason you've posted. The conversation of having him on our roster next year seems ridiculous to me at this point, especially since we've acquired Liriano. It'll be an interesting offseason.

 

You think he might just retire? He seems to have a lot of interests outside of baseball and is very close to his wife and children. I know he's talked about the desire of being a free agent in the past and choosing where he gets to play but you'd have to think there won't be a ton of interest in him so maybe that takes away from the appeal.

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Damn, wasn't he supposed to be good post ASB?

 

He's a FIP buster, and essentially you shouldn't look at KB'ers and FIP busters other than their ERA and RA9-WAR, but thing is, his ERA is north of 7 in the second half, lol. He's been bad, and we need him to turn it around starting tonight. :P

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You think he might just retire? He seems to have a lot of interests outside of baseball and is very close to his wife and children. I know he's talked about the desire of being a free agent in the past and choosing where he gets to play but you'd have to think there won't be a ton of interest in him so maybe that takes away from the appeal.

 

I doubt it, he's said as long as he can compete he'll stay in the MLB, but you never know. He doesn't seem to care much for money, and he has plenty now.

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Is the desire to spare Stroman and Sanchez really a justification for keeping Dickey around if he has lost all effectiveness? If you MUST have a 6 man rotation, would you really lose anything swapping Bolsinger and McGuire for Dickey and Thole assuming Dickey keeps pitching like this?
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You think he might just retire? He seems to have a lot of interests outside of baseball and is very close to his wife and children. I know he's talked about the desire of being a free agent in the past and choosing where he gets to play but you'd have to think there won't be a ton of interest in him so maybe that takes away from the appeal.

 

It wouldn't shock me to see a team looking for 200+ innings give him a $8-10 million contract for one year. He'd be a good fit on some NL teams.

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Is the desire to spare Stroman and Sanchez really a justification for keeping Dickey around if he has lost all effectiveness? If you MUST have a 6 man rotation, would you really lose anything swapping Bolsinger and McGuire for Dickey and Thole assuming Dickey keeps pitching like this?

 

This should honestly be the last straw for him. If he bombs, he should be done.

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Is the desire to spare Stroman and Sanchez really a justification for keeping Dickey around if he has lost all effectiveness? If you MUST have a 6 man rotation, would you really lose anything swapping Bolsinger and McGuire for Dickey and Thole assuming Dickey keeps pitching like this?

 

The report on McGuire is that he's atleast a full season away. And that has more to do with his bat that the Blue Jays will probably will want to try a little longer to develop. If its not Thole its Kratz or Jimenez. Apparently Jimenez has rebuilt some value in the organization because hes been name dropped by Atkins mutiple times.

Governator Vancouver Canadians

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If there was one word I could use to describe RA, it won't be "consistent".

 

Poor choice of words on my part lol. It was his first game of the year where he didn't walk anyone though so it stood out. Last year he had 3 games in September with 0BB which really is surprising as hell.

 

edit: I f***ed up, thought they were playing the Astros again haha. You can forget what he did against the Astros 2 weeks ago.

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