Trade Osuna now, considering the reliever bubble

[tercet]

Think what we could get from the Dodgers, Giants or Rangers.

 

This reliever bubble won't last..

[ElNik2013]

BB suggested it first:

 

 

http://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2016/7/29/12319162/off-day-gamethread-orioles-twins

[GreekFatAss]

The fact that he has 4 more years of club control at even less salary then Miller or Chapman have to add to his value too?

[fatcowxlive]

Tercet's alive?

 

If we're going by this logic might as well trade Donaldson because PROSPECTZ

 

Man lots of you still have the loser mentality of always trying to get max value of MLB players. There's a reason why Indians dealt all those prospects for a closer. Do you know why? Flags fly forever, they have a shot of getting a ring, which is kind of the point of the game

 

We see a trade like the Indians we should look at it as a positive for them, not a negative

[AdamGreenwood]

Not sure if you guys realize this, but the Jays kind of need a closer this year.

[L54]

More of an offseason move than a deadline one.

[L54]

In theory it sounds like it makes sense, but on the surface you see how f***ing stupid this would actually be.

[jaysguy44]

This is so dumb. Wow.

 

Some people just fall in love with the whole "shiny new toys" idea.

[G-Snarls]

More of an offseason move than a deadline one.

 

Yeah

 

We need him now. Desperately.

[King]

Osuna for Jose De Leon ++

 

 

Put JDL in bullpen. Or use him as a starter and call up Barnes

[ElNik2013]

I brought it up in the other thread as an offseason move for sure.

 

This year though? Tough one but let's not forget that either Sanchez or Hutchison will be in the pen at some point. Hutchison is an unknown in the pen but I suspect his stuff plays up there.

[King]

I brought it up in the other thread as an offseason move for sure.

 

This year though? Tough one but let's not forget that either Sanchez or Hutchison will be in the pen at some point. Hutchison is an unknown in the pen but I suspect his stuff plays up there.

 

Welcome back ElNik

[BlueJayWay]

Um, no

[Dr Negative]

This isn't a very good idea.

[TheHurl]

The fact that he has 4 more years of club control at even less salary then Miller or Chapman have to add to his value too?

 

Reliever is the one situation where youth doesn't always increase value. With the volatility of relievers having a 4 or 5 year track record seems to increase value. I'm not saying that Osuna doesn't have value...but not that much more than Miller despite the obvious advantages.

 

With the value of relievers in trade are we going to see more teams being quick to move the top prospects into the pen?

[BlueRocky]

Not sure if you guys realize this, but the Jays kind of need a closer this year.

 

and the fact that Osuna might actually be a stud starter when given the chance

[L54]

and the fact that Osuna might actually be a stud starter when given the chance

 

I don't think Roberto Osuna will ever make a start in the MLB.

[RealAccountant]

How is this thread not ban worthy

[L54]

How is this thread not ban worthy

 

You're on thin ice, buddy ol pal. Keep those thoughts to yourself.

 

Tercet is a respected member whose opinion is highly valued.

[TheHurl]

Tercet is a respected member whose opinion is highly valued.

 

lets not go crazy here...

[Daniel Labude]

Teams won't pay what Osuna is worth...now or in the offseason. We could easily get 3-4 top prospects for him

 

But why on Earth would we do it. He is a 21 year old closer putting up Allstar numbers and is essentially the youngest player in the league for 2 years in a row (Mazara I think is the only one younger at the moment). He is under control for years to come as well. Osuna is part of our young core going forward and he shouldn't be going anywhere for awhile

[fatcowxlive]

You're on thin ice, buddy ol pal. Keep those thoughts to yourself.

 

Tercet is a respected member whose opinion is highly valued.

 

If his constant opinions about Hech and Sanchez are anything to go by I say Osuna should not be traded and remain a blue jay the rest of his career lol

[L54]

lets not go crazy here...

 

I thought the tongue in cheek was thick enough.

[Plat]

Does Osuna have starter material?

[RealAccountant]

You're on thin ice, buddy ol pal. Keep those thoughts to yourself.

 

Tercet is a respected member whose opinion is highly valued.

 

Go f*** yourself okay, my question wasn't directed towards you and I am not looking for a response from you regarding this PM either. I am sick and tired of your online bullying and you have been at me for quite some time. You dont like me, I get it, ignore me. you want to get your friend to permenant ban me, do it. I dont care.

 

You know I remember you from the old forum. I remember once this guy posted, dont remember what his name was. Habsnjays fan I think, and you told him to commit suicide. You dont take into account people's feelings thats your problem. My guess is that you dont respect people because you dont respect yourself, and you project that negativity out on to others. If i had to guess, I'd say you got problems in your life, so does everyone else, dont direct your personal issues on to here.

 

You tell me I am on your ignore list, yet you read every one of my posts. They will ban me for this, thats for sure, but I am okay. I dont really care. I rarely posts on here now, because its so boring and uninteresting. Same posters talking the same garbage about WAR. None of them actually understand WAR/Position. They dont consider real life decisions, and dont try to evolve their knowledge.

 

You need to stop taking things so personally and the fact that you do tells me that you have issues that need to be dealt with. You shouldn't talk to people online the way you do, just because its online doesn't mean there isn't a person on the other end whose feelings wont get hurt. Do you understand? I hope so, and I hope you change the way you deal with things

 

Good luck.

[TheHurl]

Go f*** yourself okay, my question wasn't directed towards you and I am not looking for a response from you regarding this PM either. I am sick and tired of your online bullying and you have been at me for quite some time. You dont like me, I get it, ignore me. you want to get your friend to permenant ban me, do it. I dont care.

 

You know I remember you from the old forum. I remember once this guy posted, dont remember what his name was. Habsnjays fan I think, and you told him to commit suicide. You dont take into account people's feelings thats your problem. My guess is that you dont respect people because you dont respect yourself, and you project that negativity out on to others. If i had to guess, I'd say you got problems in your life, so does everyone else, dont direct your personal issues on to here.

 

You tell me I am on your ignore list, yet you read every one of my posts. They will ban me for this, thats for sure, but I am okay. I dont really care. I rarely posts on here now, because its so boring and uninteresting. Same posters talking the same garbage about WAR. None of them actually understand WAR/Position. They dont consider real life decisions, and dont try to evolve their knowledge.

 

You need to stop taking things so personally and the fact that you do tells me that you have issues that need to be dealt with. You shouldn't talk to people online the way you do, just because its online doesn't mean there isn't a person on the other end whose feelings wont get hurt. Do you understand? I hope so, and I hope you change the way you deal with things

 

Good luck.

 

calm down Robert, no need to add to the skinsuit.

[BTS]

This is worse than the times you insisted that Aaron Sanchez would be a failure and Adeiny Hechavarria would be a perennial MVP candidate.

[saskjayfan]

Think what we could get from the Dodgers, Giants or Rangers.

 

This reliever bubble won't last..

 

 

we thought about trading you to orioleshangout for weams. 2 bad contracts being swapped, but it fell apart due to medicals

[Zaun of the Dead]

I don't think Roberto Osuna will ever make a start in the MLB.

 

He'll be a starter as early as next year.

 

Also, this is a terrible idea.

[BTS]

He'll be a starter as early as next year.

 

Also, this is a terrible idea.

 

I'm with L54. I'd be surprised if he ever starts. And I think it's the right move. He's worth 2-3 wins in his current role (probably). He only has 4 years of team control left, and if he's stretched out, the first two of those years will come with innings caps that make him unlikely to be worth what he's currently worth in 70 high leverage innings. You'd be stretching him out hoping for 1-2 4+ win seasons before he hits free agency, when you have 2-3 wins in hand (and ostensibly, less injury risk) if you just leave him be.