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They are still actively in trade talks

 

If successful:

 

What SHOULD they do with the rotation and BP

 

And what WILL they probably do

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I think they should let Sanchez keep starting, at least for now.

 

He's been phenomenal, and is showing no signs of wear

 

Maybe delay his starts here and there to reduce the innings? Soft 6 man rotation for a while?

 

Stroman and Dickey are clearly the weakest links in the rotation. The thougt of Hill or Gray replacing Sanchez and still sending Stroman and Dickey out every 5 days here on out doesn't sit right.

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I like the 6 man rotation idea with Dickey being the long man on occasion with a quick hook for some of our pitchers. Keep them all rested and strong all the way to the end

 

 

Also, it really depends on who they get

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Six man rotation, or put Dickey in the pen. Hutch should be starting over dickey at this point.

 

Hutch no better than Dickey,unfortunately.:(

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I would like to see them put Dickey in the pen and continue to start Sanchez until he shows signs that he needs to be taken out.

 

I don't know why I think this, but if I had to guess who would be easier to stretch back out after a bullpen stint, my guess would be a knuckleball pitcher.

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I think they should let Sanchez keep starting, at least for now.

 

He's been phenomenal, and is showing no signs of wear

 

Maybe delay his starts here and there to reduce the innings? Soft 6 man rotation for a while?

 

Stroman and Dickey are clearly the weakest links in the rotation. The thougt of Hill or Gray replacing Sanchez and still sending Stroman and Dickey out every 5 days here on out doesn't sit right.

 

Stroman is similar to Sanchez. He's never thrown a ton of innings either yet there's no talk of a limit with him. As you said, Dickey is a weak link as well.

 

If they do acquire Hill they should keep Sanchez in the rotation and do something with one of those two. Probably put Dickey in the pen as the long man. The Dickey-Thole battery though kind of throws a wrinkle in that though.

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Why the concern over Sanchez and not Stroman? Has anyone on the Jays clarified this?

 

No. Gibby no longer answers questions about his plans for Sanchez.

 

The concern was all in the pre season and didn't seem to include Stroman at all

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Trade Dick and his personal catcher. 2 wasted roster spots

 

That would be ideal

 

But no one giving us a starter wants a Dickey rental

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Leave Sanchez alone. Maybe stop letting him go 8 innings when he doesn't need to will help. If you can add a starter I would hope it would be to replace Dickey. And Dickey can spot start to take unnecessary wear and tear off Sanchez. But the starter they get better be someone you can start in the post season otherwise it's pointless.

 

Seeing what Cashner cost today. That's not going to happen. No way the Jays are paying that much for a rental.

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Why the concern over Sanchez and not Stroman? Has anyone on the Jays clarified this?

 

Stroman threw 165 innings in 2014 (that are official, might be more in addition). He did have the layoff last year, but teams seem to worry less about that than whether a pitcher has built up the innings in the past or not. It wouldn't hurt to limit him to 5 innings in September or something when the rosters expand, but he shouldn't need to be shut down imo.

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Stroman threw 165 innings in 2014 (that are official, might be more in addition). He did have the layoff last year, but teams seem to worry less about that than whether a pitcher has built up the innings in the past or not. It wouldn't hurt to limit him to 5 innings in September or something when the rosters expand, but he shouldn't need to be shut down imo.

 

Sounds kinda stupid when you really think about it lol.

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Why not do what they did with Sanchez in the minors and piggyback the outings. You can start Sanchez every 5 days let him go 3 innings and switch to Dickey. The velocity difference between them will throw off the batters. You control Sanchez's innings and perhaps make Dickey more effective?

You still need a #5 starter and I don't know if that would be Hutch.

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Why not do what they did with Sanchez in the minors and piggyback the outings. You can start Sanchez every 5 days let him go 3 innings and switch to Dickey. The velocity difference between them will throw off the batters. You control Sanchez's innings and perhaps make Dickey more effective?

You still need a #5 starter and I don't know if that would be Hutch.

 

This sounds very interesting, theoretically. That is until the first time Sanchez breezes through 3 innings and then Dickey coughs up a bunch.

 

I'm glad I don't have to make the decision.

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If we get a guy like hill then we should try piggybacking Sanchez and Dickey. Let Sanchez take 4 innings and Dickey go the rest of the way. I'm not convinced that the BP will be less stress on his arm and I'm not convinced that letting him throw 200 innings will be good for him either. So keep him at the regular rotation just limit his innings. This way we may actually see the Dickey effect for once lol
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Why not do what they did with Sanchez in the minors and piggyback the outings. You can start Sanchez every 5 days let him go 3 innings and switch to Dickey. The velocity difference between them will throw off the batters. You control Sanchez's innings and perhaps make Dickey more effective?

You still need a #5 starter and I don't know if that would be Hutch.

 

D'oh!!!! Great minds think alike!!

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Why not do what they did with Sanchez in the minors and piggyback the outings. You can start Sanchez every 5 days let him go 3 innings and switch to Dickey. The velocity difference between them will throw off the batters. You control Sanchez's innings and perhaps make Dickey more effective?

You still need a #5 starter and I don't know if that would be Hutch.

 

I like this but would expand it to where dickey piggy backs all of Sanchez,Stroman and Hutchison's starts.Stagger the rotation so any one of the 3 pitches every second night.Optimally they trade for a starter then Dinkey could just piggyback with Stroman and Sanchez.You could also put Hutch in the pen and have two long men for that roll.Although if he were smart Bean would be asking for Hutch in a trade for Hill so........

 

Should be plenty of options regardless.

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Stroman shouldn't be spoken in the same sentence as Dickey. Sure he's had a down year but I'd still give him the ball in the playoffs, Dickey no f***ing way! Pardon my french.
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Six man rotation, or put Dickey in the pen. Hutch should be starting over dickey at this point.

Dickey in the pen? Wouldn't trust that at all. You need someone who can throw strikes and no one, not even Dickey or the catcher, knows where the ball will end up. Would really dislike if that moved was made.

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Hutch no better than Dickey,unfortunately.:(

... yet my stomach does not get in knows when Hutch throws. Every pitch Dickey throws has me on the edge of the seat.

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Stroman shouldn't be spoken in the same sentence as Dickey. Sure he's had a down year but I'd still give him the ball in the playoffs, Dickey no f***ing way! Pardon my french.

 

I do not want to see Dickey in the playoffs at all, I agree

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Why the concern over Sanchez and not Stroman? Has anyone on the Jays clarified this?

 

It's a racial thing. That's why Shartkins doesn't like talking about it.

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