GDT: Cleveland Indians @ Toronto Blue Jays- Game 2/4 CANADA DAY

[thatoneguy]

You simply can't have such a teleporting strike zone at the major league level.

[banned]

I still can't believe he threw out EE so quick, prob cost us the game.

[intentional wok]

Zaun is absolutely on point here.

 

What did he say?

[bronson44]

Of course it does not end the season, but do you think this is a serious contender? The bullpen is shoddy, the offense is very inconsistent, starting pitching is regressing. The chance we go on a big second half run this year are slim.

 

Can you just stop coming back here? Chances are slim

[Grant77]

You simply can't blame the hitters for this game. I hate to use the old cliché, but anyone who has played this game knows that it is damn near impossible to hit when the umpire is set on screwing you. Look at Russ Martin, look at Eddy, listen to what Zaun said. It's so, so difficult.

[GD]

1 game makes a season now?

 

Says the obsessive idiot who's suggesting the mental effect of this game will head them into a tailspin

[thatoneguy]

What did he say?

 

Talking about the inconsistencies in the strike zone and how it messed with the hitters (and also how he turned it into a show about himself).

[Grant77]

What did he say?

 

Disgraceful umpiring, needs to see discipline, etc.

[nextyear]

This is going to hurt the Blue Jays veterans for several days.

 

My guess for tomorrow's lineup:

 

Thole at catcher

Encarnacion at DH

Smaok at 1B

Travis at 2B (however, he looks like he needs a day off)

Goins at SS

Donaldson at 3B (and Barney)

Carrera at LF

Pillar in CF

Lake in RF

 

Which might not be bad if the Indians go with mostly the players that started today. Saunders looked like he was dead tired, Martin will be aching tomorrow (at his age and playing catcher), Barney hasn't been playing regularly so maybe he can start at 3B. Donaldson will be tired but the Blue Jays might need him in the lineup anyway.

 

As tough as this loss was, the Blue Jays can redeem themselves by winning the final two games.

[banned]

Says the obsessive idiot who's suggesting the mental effect of this game will head them into a tailspin

 

Except I never said that, I just don't think this is a serous contender, it's a middling team whose offense from last year won;t be replicated. Keep spewing insults like a child though. Losses like this can have an effect, to say otherwise means you never played sports in your life.

[2lowitzki]

I just found out today's home plate umpire Vic Carapazza was a home plate umpire in GAME2 of the ALDS last year.

I remember his strike zone was really biased toward the Rangers, so I'm sure that he is anti-Blue Jays or anti-Canada

 

I won't be surprised if he get shot tonight after today's game

[intentional wok]

Talking about the inconsistencies in the strike zone and how it messed with the hitters (and also how he turned it into a show about himself).

 

Basically. Huge crowd, tons of fanfare, throws out one of the team's two premiere players after a 4-second exchange.

[vdubmvp]

I just found out today's home plate umpire Vic Carapazza was a home plate umpire in GAME2 of the ALDS last year.

I remember his strike zone was really biased toward the Rangers, so I'm sure that he is anti-Blue Jays or anti-Canada

 

I won't be surprised if he get shot tonight after today's game

 

Go away.

[Abomination]

I won't be surprised if he get shot tonight after today's game

 

This is Canada, not the States.

[2lowitzki]

Go away.

 

Why?? It is true.. He was really biased toward the Indians...

[fatcowxlive]

It's ok our team will come back tomorrow with a chip on their shoulder. They might be pissed now but tomorrow they'll realize the went 19 innings against the hottest team in baseball without their manager and 2nd best hitter + no catcher for 6 innings. Oh yeah and the losing pitcher is a position player... The SEXOND of the game.

 

Great takeaway is the bullpen and Stroman, fantastic today

[2lowitzki]

This is Canada, not the States.

 

Well, considering the number of gun violences in Toronto.. I won't be surprised about that.

[thatoneguy]

Having EE in the lineup means JD gets to likely see more pitches to hit and possibly end the game (and obviously provides EE's hitting prowess in all of those situations where they could've won). It's just such a shame that an ump show had to take this over, I wouldn't nearly be as pissed if the Jays had just straight up lost.

[Abomination]

It's ok our team will come back tomorrow with a chip on their shoulder. They might be pissed now but tomorrow they'll realize the went 19 innings against the hottest team in baseball without their manager and 2nd best hitter + no catcher for 6 innings. Oh yeah and the losing pitcher is a position player... The SEXOND of the game.

 

Great takeaway is the bullpen and Stroman, fantastic today

 

One other takeaway could be that Goins and Barney were actually somewhat competent in relief. Next time we have a blowout game, let's save the pen and have them pitch again.

[banned]

Having EE in the lineup means JD gets to likely see more pitches to hit and possibly end the game (and obviously provides EE's hitting prowess in all of those situations where they could've won). It's just such a shame that an ump show had to take this over, I wouldn't nearly be as pissed if the Jays had just straight up lost.

 

Ump changed the course of the game because he is an idiot. MLB needs to do something.

[2lowitzki]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vic_Carapazza

 

From the wikipedia of today's home plate umpire

 

In 2015, he was criticized by some players and media members after Game 2 of the 2015 American League Division Series between the Toronto Blue Jays and Texas Rangers for what some saw as an inconsistent strike zone.

[Grant77]

I just found out today's home plate umpire Vic Carapazza was a home plate umpire in GAME2 of the ALDS last year.

I remember his strike zone was really biased toward the Rangers, so I'm sure that he is anti-Blue Jays or anti-Canada

 

I won't be surprised if he get shot tonight after today's game

 

There have been more than 250 Canadians in MLB and never a single umpire, despite Canadian umpires being held in high regard on the world stage and obviously qualified for the position. That should tell you everything you need to know about MLB's umpiring institution.

 

Also. I'll chip in for the guy's bail.

[Abomination]

There have been more than 250 Canadians in MLB and never a single umpire, despite Canadian umpires being held in high regard on the world stage and obviously qualified for the position.

 

McKean?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_McKean

I think Scheurwater as well.

[Daniel Labude]

Win the next 2 and split the series. We need to come out focused tomorrow.

[intentional wok]

Lineup completely s*** the pants today, unfortunately. The egregious calls settled down but they still went over an entire game's worth of innings barely squaring anything up, even against struggling arms. Really bad work all around, including JD getting doubled up.

[Stangstag]

Can anyone find out how many of the Jays strikeouts were called 3rd strikes?

[BlueJays]

I hope they stop using Carrera as a lead-off.

[Abomination]

Can anyone find out how many of the Jays strikeouts were called 3rd strikes?

 

I count 11.

[bronson44]

A glimpse of the lineup without EE and Bautista

[Daniel Labude]

Any post game comments yet?