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Danny Barnes and Wade LeBlanc would be good choices. Barnes' stats look real good in AA and LeBlanc's FIP / K/9 as a starter in AAA could really play up in our BP, possibly improve.

 

Barnes numbers are outstanding, at 27 years old how has he not progressed past AA? Seems like a legitimate pro reliever. Been getting passed for starting prospects?

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Barnes numbers are outstanding, at 27 years old how has he not progressed past AA? Seems like a legitimate pro reliever. Been getting passed for starting prospects?

 

He should be called right up, why not see what he has, he can't be much worse than what we've been getting from Floyd/Loup/etc lately and maybe he's actually a great addition.

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He should be called right up, why not see what he has, he can't be much worse than what we've been getting from Floyd/Loup/etc lately and maybe he's actually a great addition.

 

He hasn't had a season in any level with < 10K/9... He at least finds the zone and gets a lot of Ks. Looks like he missed 2013, must have had a serious injury. This would be a good month to bring him up with weaker competition to test the waters.

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He hasn't had a season in any level with < 10K/9... He at least finds the zone and gets a lot of Ks. Looks like he missed 2013, must have had a serious injury. This would be a good month to bring him up with weaker competition to test the waters.

 

Most definitely man. Let's hope that it happens.

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#FreeWadeLeblanc

 

Not sure what he has to do to get a callup.

 

Man why can't Loup be good. He was awesome just a few years back. Thought he was gonna be out version of Matt Thornton.

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#FreeWadeLeblanc

 

Not sure what he has to do to get a callup.

 

Man why can't Loup be good. He was awesome just a few years back. Thought he was gonna be out version of Matt Thornton.

 

He's hurt. Velo is down like 3 MPH.

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#FreeWadeLeblanc

 

Not sure what he has to do to get a callup.

 

Man why can't Loup be good. He was awesome just a few years back. Thought he was gonna be out version of Matt Thornton.

 

dude matt thornton had sick stuff. he throws smoke and averaged like 95+ on his fastball until like last year which is fine cuz hes like 40 years old. Aaron Loup throws 92 and relies on a deceptive delivery. i'm so sick of him getting hammered by the 1 batter hes supposed to get out every game. a lot of people point to his advanced stats as a saving grace but they have never even been that good for a RP. somehow he has the lowest xFIP of his career this year too.

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Barnes numbers are outstanding, at 27 years old how has he not progressed past AA? Seems like a legitimate pro reliever. Been getting passed for starting prospects?

 

Damn. I remember when he was drafted. Can't believe he's 27 already.

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Floyd is doing well as of recently. Turning a page. Chavez is on fire, Biagini is struggling but every rookie does in their first year. Can't wait for Cecil

 

 

Plus Morales is on the 60-day DL

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dude matt thornton had sick stuff. he throws smoke and averaged like 95+ on his fastball until like last year which is fine cuz hes like 40 years old. Aaron Loup throws 92 and relies on a deceptive delivery. i'm so sick of him getting hammered by the 1 batter hes supposed to get out every game. a lot of people point to his advanced stats as a saving grace but they have never even been that good for a RP. somehow he has the lowest xFIP of his career this year too.

 

I thought Loup was on his way to becoming another Scott Downs for us.

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I thought Loup was on his way to becoming another Scott Downs for us.

 

Lol not even close. Loup is s***.

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Skip him vs NL teams....give him 2 weeks at the Allstar break....put him in the pen for final 2 weeks and then he should be able to pitch in the playoffs as a starter

 

Wut

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Would think the writing on the wall means Shanchez has maybe 3-4 more starts or 24-28 innings max as a starter left. Bring him with the 85 innings pitched to 109-113 as a starter. Pitching every other day out of the pen from there one inning gives him 38-39 more easy, 158- 162 on the year. But better question at that point does he get shut down or can he still pitch in the playoffs ???
Pendleton Vancouver Canadians

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Lol not even close. Loup is s***.

 

He is now. I said I thought he was going to become another Scott Downs, did I say I was right? Loup was looking like a legit lefty reliever when he broke in.

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He is now. I said I thought he was going to become another Scott Downs, did I say I was right? Loup was looking like a legit lefty reliever when he broke in.

 

He had potential as a loogy.

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I thought Loup was on his way to becoming another Scott Downs for us.

 

i hold scott downs in pretty high regard. mainly because when i first saw him he was absolute dogshit for us and it really amazed me how he turned it around. he proved me so wrong. thing is i remember downs could get righties out. it wasnt his specialty or anything like that and u didnt want to throw him out there every chance but he could do it. loup is kinda of going down the opposite path. plus that downs curveball was pretty sick. i cant really say that about Loups secondaries.

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i hold scott downs in pretty high regard. mainly because when i first saw him he was absolute dogshit for us and it really amazed me how he turned it around. he proved me so wrong. thing is i remember downs could get righties out. it wasnt his specialty or anything like that and u didnt want to throw him out there every chance but he could do it. loup is kinda of going down the opposite path. plus that downs curveball was pretty sick. i cant really say that about Loups secondaries.

 

In 2012 when Loup broke in he was pretty solid against righties, he was only 24 with limited experience so I don't think having optimism for improvement should have been out of the question. Downs became an excellent reliever for sure, once again never tried to say Loup is nearly as good, just had optimism he could be when he was 24.

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P.S. Jays are in a Play-off position.:cool:

 

Wild card game @ Boston it would be if the season ended today. DAMN I'd have to drive down again to see that. Lol

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We need him to be starting in the playoffs.... We can pick up bullpen help at the deadline if we're in a good spot.

 

um...I don't think they are moving him to the bullpen because they think we need help there...

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