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Connor Greene is at a photo shoot. Thats all thats holding things up now.

 

that's not a photo shoot

 

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If the deal from the Jays end is just Saunders for Bruce, then I don't see why it would make anyone think less of Shapiro. I'm not a Bruce fan by any means, but Saunders is not even close to a sure thing as far as staying healthy, and Bruce does have some offensive upside. To me it comes down to 1. how much money the Reds are picking up, and 2. what else the Jays are giving up. If it's Saunders for Bruce with the Jays not picking up any (or much) salary and no prospect is involved, and it's a meh trade at worst. It really depends on those two things.

 

Of course, reviewing Saunders' records might take us into the start of the season.

 

Before typing this post, have you actually looked at what Bruce has done over the last two years? Or do you want to get Cito and gang here to see if they can turn him into the next Bautista?

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I feel so bad for Saunders he want to be a Blue Jays and desperately want to play here, f*** Saphiro and his cronies.

 

I wouldnt be surprised if Saunders made it known he would welcome a trade. Angels grass is much better than Rogers Centre cement.

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Before typing this post, have you actually looked at what Bruce has done over the last two years? Or do you want to get Cito and gang here to see if they can turn him into the next Bautista?

 

lol wht

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If the deal from the Jays end is just Saunders for Bruce, then I don't see why it would make anyone think less of Shapiro. I'm not a Bruce fan by any means, but Saunders is not even close to a sure thing as far as staying healthy, and Bruce does have some offensive upside. To me it comes down to 1. how much money the Reds are picking up, and 2. what else the Jays are giving up. If it's Saunders for Bruce with the Jays not picking up any (or much) salary and no prospect is involved, and it's a meh trade at worst. It really depends on those two things.

 

Of course, reviewing Saunders' records might take us into the start of the season.

 

Even if the Reds pay the salary difference and the Jays don't give up a prospect you're forgetting Bruce has been worth -0.8 WAR (MINUS) over the past 2 years. Saunders was worth 2 WAR in 1/2 a season in 2014. I know that's old news and the knee injury may not allow him to return to that level, but Jay Bruce f***ing sucks...

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If they were going to trade for Bruce I would have liked to keep Saunders and play him at 1st base. His bat is a lot better than Smoak and made less money.

 

Why wouldnt you play Bruce at 1B instead lmfao

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If they were going to trade for Bruce I would have liked to keep Saunders and play him at 1st base. His bat is a lot better than Smoak and made less money.

 

his bat made less money? sign me up

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Before typing this post, have you actually looked at what Bruce has done over the last two years? Or do you want to get Cito and gang here to see if they can turn him into the next Bautista?

 

If they think Bruce can bounce back offensively, and don't have to add payroll or trade prospects in this swap, then what's the big deal? Saunders is a year removed from knee surgery and missing all of 2015. There's no guarantee he's going to be healthy or good. If they think Bruce's offense can be fixed, and that's all they have to give up to see if it can, then it's not worthy of negative backlash.

 

If no money is involved, or the Jays are sending meaningful prospects, then that's a different story.

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Has it been confirmed Tropeano is in the deal

 

@Ken_Rosenthal

Source: Jays getting Tropeano, cash kicker back in #Bruce deal

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too much buck teeth, do not want

 

congrats for being the ignore list. f*** with my family that's fine...but don't take shots at the Model's looks.

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Even if the Reds pay the salary difference and the Jays don't give up a prospect you're forgetting Bruce has been worth -0.8 WAR (MINUS) over the past 2 years. Saunders was worth 2 WAR in 1/2 a season in 2014. I know that's old news and the knee injury may not allow him to return to that level, but Jay Bruce f***ing sucks...

 

I don't want Bruce. I'm just saying if the deal is just Saunders/Bruce with no increased payroll obligations and no prospects involved, then I don't see the big deal. Saunders was a non-tender candidate for me.

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Why wouldnt you play Bruce at 1B instead lmfao

 

Health. My guess is the blue jays are trading Saunders because of concerns about his health. Its a lot easier for his body to be on dirt at 1st than the turf in the OF.

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If they think Bruce can bounce back offensively, and don't have to add payroll or trade prospects in this swap, then what's the big deal? Saunders is a year removed from knee surgery and missing all of 2015. There's no guarantee he's going to be healthy or good. If they think Bruce's offense can be fixed, and that's all they have to give up to see if it can, then it's not worthy of negative backlash.

 

If no money is involved, or the Jays are sending meaningful prospects, then that's a different story.

 

Saunders is a year removed from knee surgery, Bruce is two years removed from a good season. And a s***** contract. And terrible defense. Even if he can hit decently, his defense will counteract that.

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