Slugger Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 F that. Yeah, if we give up a devastating prospect, I wouldn't be happy and that doesn't seem like something Shapiro would do.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 If Prospect are involved here there better be more pieces and a lot of cash thrown in. Shapiro criticized the AA actions last trade deadline for trade the young guys. Its not gonna happen
Jonzo Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 There's nothing way Shatkins gives up prospects.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Assuming no prospects of any value are going to Cinci, there is definitely a price at which its defensible to pay a bit more for Bruce. The team might prefer him for a variety of reasons: doubts about Saunders' health, doubts about Saunder's ability to perform if he's playing, a belief that Bruce has something left in the tank etc... ......and Jose Bautista replacement 2017 season
ColdPint Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Yeah, there's no chance the FO gives up anything of consequence in terms of prospects for Bruce. He has been nothing short of horrible the last two years.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Just got home. Can anyone summarize where this whole thing sits right now? Thanks a bunch Apparently a 3-way deal is in place. Saunders to LAA, prospect from LA to Cincy, Jay Bruce to the Jays. Ken Rosenthal has been tweeting about it so it must be legit. No deal is confirmed right now though, and no teams have commented yet.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 People seem to forget Pompey. Is the dude trade bait or is he going to spend another year in the minors?
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 If we give up something like Alford this place will have a meltdown
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 People seem to forget Pompey. Is the dude trade bait or is he going to spend another year in the minors? Nobody is forgetting Pompey
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Jays front office (Bruce trade) At least his chick is hot and does housework.
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Author Posted February 23, 2016 Apparently a 3-way deal is in place. Saunders to LAA, prospect from LA to Cincy, Jay Bruce to the Jays. Ken Rosenthal has been tweeting about it so it must be legit. No deal is confirmed right now though, and no teams have commented yet. We also confirmed that Hazel Mae may have "dated" Jay Bruce.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Just got home. Can anyone summarize where this whole thing sits right now? Thanks a bunch Bautista called Rogers cheap *******s. Then 5 hours later there's trade rumours involving Jay Bruce from the Reds in a 3 way deal including the Athletics. The 3 way is already a no go according to sources but Jas still trying to land Bruce. THE Jays are on Bruce's no-trade list but is apparantly willing to waive it.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Apparently a 3-way deal is in place. Saunders to LAA, prospect from LA to Cincy, Jay Bruce to the Jays. Ken Rosenthal has been tweeting about it so it must be legit. No deal is confirmed right now though, and no teams have commented yet. Angels haven't prospects. Mike Trout and pile of s***.
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Author Posted February 23, 2016 At least his chick is hot and does housework. Good call.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 ......and Jose Bautista replacement 2017 season Can't really look that far ahead until we know how he performs in 2016. No one would trigger that option if the decision had to be made today.
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Author Posted February 23, 2016 Angels haven't prospects. Mike Trout and pile of s***. Maybe the trade is Trout for Saunders.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I feel like 2015 Jay Bruce was maybe basically the same dude as 2008-2013 Jay Bruce, just with worse luck and worse defense. It wouldn't surprise me to see him put up, like, 120 wRC+ and 2.5 WAR or whatever. Wouldn't say it's necessarily likely, but if we're paying like $4m, that's a better risk than Saunders is. By a lot.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 The whole point of Shapiro's life is to hoard prospects. Yeah, seriously. I can't see Shapiro trading a decent prospect for Bruce, but I'm going to be a little nervous until something is confirmed (whether the deal happens or not).
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Bautista called Rogers cheap *******s. Then 5 hours later there's trade rumours involving Jay Bruce from the Reds in a 3 way deal including the Athletics. The 3 way is already a no go according to sources but Jas still trying to land Bruce. THE Jays are on Bruce's no-trade list but is apparantly willing to waive it. I think the Jays aren't on the no trade list after all.
Travis_Snider Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Bautista called Rogers cheap *******s. Then 5 hours later there's trade rumours involving Jay Bruce from the Reds in a 3 way deal including the Athletics. The 3 way is already a no go according to sources but Jas still trying to land Bruce. THE Jays are on Bruce's no-trade list but is apparantly willing to waive it. Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 2h2 hours ago Source: #BlueJays are NOT on Bruce’s most recent no-trade list. Can be sent to TOR without his approval.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I think the Jays aren't on the no trade list after all. I'm just going by watching I've heard from the talking heads. My sources are all drunk and banging hookers knee deep in a mountain of coke. Yes, my source is Greg Zaun.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 ???? Inside Baseball @InsideBaseball6 2m2 minutes ago We're hearing rumors that #Reds 2B Brandon Phillips & OF Jay Bruce may be involved in a 3-way deal with the #BlueJays and #Angels.
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Author Posted February 23, 2016 Jay Bruce's no-trade list: 1. Yankees 2. Red Sox 3. Athletics 4. Rays 5. Marlins 6. Twins 7. Indians 8. Diamondbacks
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 The most attractive thing about Bruce on the Jays would be that he would be facing a lot of RHP. He loses a lot of value being terrible vs LHP but with at least 7 hitters being RH he shouldn't be facing hardly any Loogys.
Governator Community Moderator Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I know a lot of you were high on Saunders even before we acquired him, but so far there has been nothing to like except the same old s*** he's been known for and the only reason he'd be moved is if FO feels like nothing will improve. It's not like he's going to bust out with 140 game season and be a 4 win player. Our LF is most certainly a wildcard going in to the season and while Jay Bruce isnt likely to go dialing the clock back and being a stud, maybe he can be average or better with some luck while eating a lot of games in a spot we don't have solitified atm. If the reds eat his salary down, Bruce over Saunders isn't the worst thing.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 ???? Inside Baseball @InsideBaseball6 2m2 minutes ago We're hearing rumors that #Reds 2B Brandon Phillips & OF Jay Bruce may be involved in a 3-way deal with the #BlueJays and #Angels. Weird, the Jays don't need either of them....
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Maybe the trade is Trout for Saunders. lol Impusibru. Jays have Pillar playing CF
GD Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 ???? Inside Baseball @InsideBaseball6 2m2 minutes ago We're hearing rumors that #Reds 2B Brandon Phillips & OF Jay Bruce may be involved in a 3-way deal with the #BlueJays and #Angels. Jays get: Bruce, Tropeano, $8m Angels get: Phillips, Saunders Reds get: I don't care yay
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I thought there would be more criticism for Shapiro trying to trade for a replacement level bat who makes more money for a superior asset But this forum sees him with rose colored glasses
Cyborg Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Angels getting Phillips for sure.
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