Should the Jays trade for Jay Bruce?

Chowder888 · February 22, 2016

Pompey + Alford + Dickey + Thole for Jay Bruce.

Would you do it this year to solidify another playoff run? I prefer Bruce over Justin Smoak.

Jay Bruce:

- Solidies the left field option

- Adds a much needed left handed power bat

- 1 year left at 12 million, and another option year at 13 million.

- potential gold glove/silver slugger candidate

- will prob hit 35-40 HR at hitter friendly Rogers center.

- will help ease the pain of either/both of EE or Bautista walking next season

- still young, 28 years old

- pretty durable health wise

Edited February 22, 2016 by Chowder888

Swervin81 · February 22, 2016

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Rusty_Savage · February 22, 2016

Are you high?

Jonn · February 22, 2016

f*** no.

JosJos · February 22, 2016

Hell no

KingKat · February 22, 2016

Pompey + Alford + Dickey + Thole for Jay Bruce.
Would you do it this year to solidify another playoff run? I prefer Bruce over Justin Smoak.

Jay Bruce:

- Solidies the left field option
- Adds a much needed left handed power bat
- 1 year left at 12 million, and another option year at 13 million.
- potential gold glove/silver slugger candidate
- will prob hit 35-40 HR at hitter friendly Rogers center.
- will help ease the pain of either/both of EE or Bautista walking next season
- still young, 28 years old
- pretty durable health wise

Either you're trolling or you haven't really researched this idea. I've posted his stats from his last two season as well as his current Steamer projection below. He still hits some homeruns but he's not a 35-40 guy anymore, his slash line is brutal and by fWAR he's a negative asset defensively. He's not a Gold Glove or Silver Slugger candidate by any reasonable stretch and when you factor his salary, he's a negative asset. There's absolutely no reason to give up anything of value for Jay Bruce at this point. Certainly not 1/5 of your rotation and 2/3 of what might be your OF of the future.

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Stangstag · February 22, 2016

I wouldn't trade any of those players for Bruce straight up.

Ok, maybe Thole. And only if the Reds ate cash

Spanky99 · February 22, 2016

lol

Spanky99 · February 22, 2016

Either you're trolling or you haven't really researched this idea. I've posted his stats from his last two season as well as his current Steamer projection below. He still hits some homeruns but he's not a 35-40 guy anymore, his slash line is brutal and by fWAR he's a negative asset defensively. He's not a Gold Glove or Silver Slugger candidate by any reasonable stretch and when you factor his salary, he's a negative asset. There's absolutely no reason to give up anything of value for Jay Bruce at this point. Certainly not 1/5 of your rotation and 2/3 of what might be your OF of the future.

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[TH]Season
[/TH]
[TH]Team
[/TH]
[TH]G
[/TH]
[TH]PA
[/TH]
[TH]HR
[/TH]
[TH]R
[/TH]
[TH]RBI
[/TH]
[TH]SB
[/TH]
[TH]BB%
[/TH]
[TH]K%
[/TH]
[TH]ISO
[/TH]
[TH]BABIP
[/TH]
[TH]AVG
[/TH]
[TH]OBP
[/TH]
[TH]SLG
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[TH]wOBA
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[TH]wRC+
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[TH]BsR
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[TH]Off
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[TH]Def
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[TH]WAR
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[TD]2014
[/TD]
[TD]Reds
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[TD]137
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[TD]545
[/TD]
[TD]18
[/TD]
[TD]71
[/TD]
[TD]66
[/TD]
[TD]12
[/TD]
[TD]8.1 %
[/TD]
[TD]27.3 %
[/TD]
[TD].156
[/TD]
[TD].269
[/TD]
[TD].217
[/TD]
[TD].281
[/TD]
[TD].373
[/TD]
[TD].288
[/TD]
[TD]78
[/TD]
[TD]2.5
[/TD]
[TD]-10.8
[/TD]
[TD]-13.6
[/TD]
[TD]-0.9
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2015
[/TD]
[TD]Reds
[/TD]
[TD]157
[/TD]
[TD]649
[/TD]
[TD]26
[/TD]
[TD]72
[/TD]
[TD]87
[/TD]
[TD]9
[/TD]
[TD]8.9 %
[/TD]
[TD]22.3 %
[/TD]
[TD].209
[/TD]
[TD].251
[/TD]
[TD].226
[/TD]
[TD].294
[/TD]
[TD].434
[/TD]
[TD].309
[/TD]
[TD]91
[/TD]
[TD]-1.8
[/TD]
[TD]-8.3
[/TD]
[TD]-11.2
[/TD]
[TD]0.1
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2016
[/TD]
[TD]Steamer
[/TD]
[TD]134
[/TD]
[TD]576
[/TD]
[TD]23
[/TD]
[TD]63
[/TD]
[TD]74
[/TD]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]8.9 %
[/TD]
[TD]24.5 %
[/TD]
[TD].197
[/TD]
[TD].275
[/TD]
[TD].235
[/TD]
[TD].305
[/TD]
[TD].432
[/TD]
[TD].315
[/TD]
[TD]96
[/TD]
[TD]0.1
[/TD]
[TD]-2.9
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[TD]-8.9
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[TD]0.7
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Ahem!

Angrioter · February 22, 2016

Bruce suxxx

KingKat · February 22, 2016

Ahem!

I don't like making that assumption. I don't think it's fair to posters who might merely be casuals and not well versed in baseball stats.

GD · February 22, 2016

No. Glad we had this talk

Krylian · February 22, 2016

That is a weird trade proposal.

I'd be interested in trading for anyone that makes the team better...but it would have to be the right deal.

What we saw in the OP is NOT the right deal.

Edited February 22, 2016 by Krylian

Spanky99 · February 22, 2016

I don't like making that assumption. I don't think it's fair to posters who might merely be casuals and not well versed in baseball stats.

I understand.

HERPDERP · February 22, 2016

@ OP

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CNTazrLWwAAA6_G.mp4

Cyborg · February 22, 2016

Dickey for Bruce is close but thats it. And GG contender? Wat.

Boxcar · February 22, 2016

This guy is like bizarro BBBB.

Dr. Dinger · February 22, 2016

Pompey + Alford + Dickey + Thole for Jay Bruce.
Would you do it this year to solidify another playoff run? I prefer Bruce over Justin Smoak.

Jay Bruce:

- Solidies the left field option
- Adds a much needed left handed power bat
- 1 year left at 12 million, and another option year at 13 million.
- potential gold glove/silver slugger candidate
- will prob hit 35-40 HR at hitter friendly Rogers center.
- will help ease the pain of either/both of EE or Bautista walking next season
- still young, 28 years old
- pretty durable health wise

No offence, but that's one of the dumbest trade proposals I've ever read. Bruce has negative trade value. To even trade Alford alone for him would be a firable decision.

Sammy225 · February 22, 2016

Dickey for Bruce is close but thats it. And GG contender? Wat.

I don't think it is 200 innings of slightly above average baseball is a lot better then whatever Bruce brings lol

Brownie19 · February 22, 2016

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Muck Bartinez · February 22, 2016

I'd be willing to wager Pompey puts up a better WAR/600 than Bruce this year. So yeah, you high AF.

Rajais Mitten · February 22, 2016

Are you high?

We now go live to the OP:

Stangstag · February 22, 2016

Meme central in here

Terminator · February 22, 2016

Pompey + Alford + Dickey + Thole for Jay Bruce.

I don't mean to pile on but I wouldn't trade any of those three main players you mentioned straight up for Jay Bruce; never mind combining all 3 together.

Edited February 22, 2016 by Terminator

Effit · February 22, 2016

Yikes

Stangstag · February 22, 2016

In conclusion, the answer to the thread title is a huge NO.

GD · February 22, 2016

Why wouldn't we just trade for Oswaldo Arcia or someone instead

gbill2004 · February 22, 2016

@jonheyman: Jay Bruce is coming up in trade talks still. Blue Jays could be a possibility.

Abomination · February 22, 2016

@jonheyman: Jay Bruce is coming up in trade talks still. Blue Jays could be a possibility.

You have to think it'll either be Seattle or Arizona. He seems like the kind of player they both target.

gbill2004 · February 22, 2016

@jonheyman: Jays are said to like Jay Bruce very much. Word is, deal could be in works.

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