Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 Bruh, ya never replied to my PM. My bad.... was going to. Looked over your assets didn't see how a deal for Baez could work, as you alluded to in describing my farm as loaded.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 Yes, legit but have some better offers. does Morejon tip the scales? Or do you want a bat back? Missing this years draft and trading most of my farm for Sale and Verlander is hurting me now. With that said Jon Gray and Adrian Morejon are available for an OF, 1B, 3B or C and an RP
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 3B/OF Nick Castellanos is available
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 Bryant might be avail if you added a couple of those guys to Votto Since I'm in 1st place I'm looking to add players who aren't on the DL.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 Javy Baez to Dinger for: Corey Seager, Brandon Crawford, 2019 MiLB 2nd Dinger to confirm pick move
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 Dinger never listens to me. What a dumbass.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 Holy f***. This seems incredibly ill-advised.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 Holy f***. This seems incredibly ill-advised. Crawford droppable Baez at 25 with a breakout season, this could be his norm going forward in which case his positional flexibility 2B, 3B, SS makes him an incredibly valuable asset
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 Crawford droppable Baez at 25 with a breakout season, this could be his norm going forward in which case his positional flexibility 2B, 3B, SS makes him an incredibly valuable asset Baez has a 6:1 K:BB even in this ‘breakout year’. Expecting him to wRC+ 130 going forward with no control of the strike zone seems I’ll advised. Which I’m sure is why you traded him. This looks like a classic sell high. I look forward to my time in Dinger’s signature if I’m wrong.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 You both advised strongly against. My perspective isn’t so much that I fully buy Baez’ breakout, moreso that Seager’s injuries and lack of HR power could limit the long term fantasy value. Baez has a lot of category juice and multi position eligibility. Seager just had two surgeries. I dunno. Seager will probably never have a fantasy season as good as Baez is having now and I want to win.
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 You both advised strongly against. My perspective isn’t so much that I fully buy Baez’ breakout, moreso that Seager’s injuries and lack of HR power could limit the long term fantasy value. Baez has a lot of category juice and multi position eligibility. Seager just had two surgeries. I dunno. Seager will probably never have a fantasy season as good as Baez is having now and I want to win. Yesterday’s news of Seager’s hip (I think) surgery did hurt his value. Did you know about that a couple days ago?
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 You both advised strongly against. My perspective isn’t so much that I fully buy Baez’ breakout, moreso that Seager’s injuries and lack of HR power could limit the long term fantasy value. Baez has a lot of category juice and multi position eligibility. Seager just had two surgeries. I dunno. Seager will probably never have a fantasy season as good as Baez is having now and I want to win. Baez will probably never have a fantasy season as good as the one he's having right now.
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 That is awful for Dinger. Baez will probably never have a fantasy season as good as the one he's having right now. ^ Owns Javier Baez in dynasty
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) ^ Owns Javier Baez in dynasty That's how you know it's coming from the heart (I also moved him in DDL for a pitcher who's been injured since I acquired him f*** my life). League average Javier Baez in LoD is still a very valuable piece unlike in this league. Edited August 7, 2018 by Orgfiller
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 Baez will probably never have a fantasy season as good as the one he's having right now. I think that's a built-in assumption, as well as the assumption that Corey Seager is a better pure hitter (in terms of AVG, OBP, wRC+) over the long term. Jim wouldn't have done this trade if he thought they were exactly as good as one another going forward and I wouldn't have done this deal if Seager was healthy and helping me win this year. I do think there are some red flags about Seager that some may be more willing to gloss over, and I also have a higher tolerance for Ks than some owners. It's entirely possible that Baez' power breakout will lead to increased BB rate over time and that Seager's injuries will deplete his power and make him go down the Joe Mauer/Buster Posey path. Or Baez could pull a Marcell Ozuna next year (BTS' comp) and Seager takes a Mookie Betts style leap into the stratosphere. There are a range of outcomes at play here. I just know I am an impatient man and Baez can help me a lot this season while Seager can't, and I'm willing to roll the dice that they could possibly be equal (but different) fantasy players going forward.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 I think that's a built-in assumption, as well as the assumption that Corey Seager is a better pure hitter (in terms of AVG, OBP, wRC+) over the long term. Jim wouldn't have done this trade if he thought they were exactly as good as one another going forward and I wouldn't have done this deal if Seager was healthy and helping me win this year. I do think there are some red flags about Seager that some may be more willing to gloss over, and I also have a higher tolerance for Ks than some owners. It's entirely possible that Baez' power breakout will lead to increased BB rate over time and that Seager's injuries will deplete his power and make him go down the Joe Mauer/Buster Posey path. Or Baez could pull a Marcell Ozuna next year (BTS' comp) and Seager takes a Mookie Betts style leap into the stratosphere. There are a range of outcomes at play here. I just know I am an impatient man and Baez can help me a lot this season while Seager can't, and I'm willing to roll the dice that they could possibly be equal (but different) fantasy players going forward. I understand your points while I disagree with them, Seager's injuries are quite concerning and there's no guarantee that he'll even get back to the level where he was at in his first two years in the league. The bolded holds no basis though, Baez's PD stats have not changed in any way to indicate that a boost in walk rate is coming, as a matter of fact he's actually swinging at pitches outside the strikezone at a career high rate, one that continues to trend up with every year that he's been in the league. This is who he is, an aggressive hitter with prodigious bat speed which results in excellent contact off the bat, but which makes him prone to swing at every pitch believing that he can hit it.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 The bolded holds no basis though, Baez's PD stats have not changed in any way to indicate that a boost in walk rate is coming. If Rougned Odor can up his walk rate to 8.5%, then anyone can!
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 If Rougned Odor can up his walk rate to 8.5%, then anyone can! *8.6% I'm not sure I'd move Baez for Seager in the DDL. Would be a tough call though.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 *8.6% I'm not sure I'd move Baez for Seager in the DDL. Would be a tough call though. This is a bad sign, Dinger.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 This is a bad sign, Dinger. You're my favourite
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 I'm not sure I'd move Baez for Seager in the DDL. Gimme Gleyber Torres over both of em.
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 So... is dinger going to make the playoffs?
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 So... is dinger going to make the playoffs? I can't say I wouldn't get some level of satisfaction out of this blowing up in Dinger's face after he rudely ignored the advice he asked for.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 So... is dinger going to make the playoffs? It’s going to be close. My team has been on fire after starting the season like 25 games below .500. It would sure help if Judge hurried back and maybe Ohtani pitched.
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 It’s going to be close. My team has been on fire after starting the season like 25 games below .500. It would sure help if Judge hurried back and maybe Ohtani pitched. It's really competitive. I'm 43 games over 0.500 and still don't feel safe. It doesn't help that the glut of managers in the 7-10 spots are all very competent mangers (you, jaysblue, P2F, j4l19). 9th place team could finish like 40 games over 0.500.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 It's really competitive. I'm 43 games over 0.500 and still don't feel safe. It doesn't help that the glut of managers in the 7-10 spots are all very competent mangers (you, jaysblue, P2F, j4l19). 9th place team could finish like 40 games over 0.500. I have a pretty favourable schedule ROS, my matchup against jaysblue in week 20 could be huge for one of us.
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