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You also don't want EE going to one of your competitors, since I'm assuming his owner is in sell mode.

 

Yup, his owner is in last place in the AL haha.

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You're a stingy negotiator, maybe you can get a throw-in, like a reliever upgrade. Ultimately though, you should pull the trigger straight up if necessary.
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Please don't. I wanted Syndergaard so bad with the pick I used on Cole.

 

I was taking him at 34 over Harvey if he was still there, but BB probably would have taken him one before me too. No way he was getting to 41.

 

Syndergaard owners in other leagues should probably rejoice I didn't get him. Kiss of death.

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I was taking him at 34 over Harvey if he was still there, but BB probably would have taken him one before me too. No way he was getting to 41.

 

Syndergaard owners in other leagues should probably rejoice I didn't get him. Kiss of death.

 

Well, you haven't ruined Smyly yet, at least.

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People put too much stock in pitcher's age. Expecting even a young horse to still be productive in 4-5 years is a big stretch, and it's not like EE is going to call it quits soon.

 

John Lackey has thrown around 200 innings of #2 starter stuff for 4 straight years and he always gets drafted later than he deserves. I don't know that I've ever paid out the ass for a young ace in any dynasty and zero regrets about it. Closest is maybe Braun for Harvey. Gimme a Max Scherzer or David Price over Cole and Syndergaard every time.

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Well, you haven't ruined Smyly yet, at least.

 

His 4.37 xFIP this year says otherwise. (I think he'll bounce back, but almost every pitcher I've touched this year except Sanchez has been a disaster)

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His 4.37 xFIP this year says otherwise. (I think he'll bounce back, but almost every pitcher I've touched this year except Sanchez has been a disaster)

 

His xFIP- is 102, so about a league average starter.

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John Lackey has thrown around 200 innings of #2 starter stuff for 4 straight years and he always gets drafted later than he deserves. I don't know that I've ever paid out the ass for a young ace in any dynasty and zero regrets about it. Closest is maybe Braun for Harvey. Gimme a Max Scherzer or David Price over Cole and Syndergaard every time.

 

Yeah. I've shifted my philosophy on pitchers towards targeting reliable guys with almost no regard for age, and then riding them until their arms explode. A Stroman or Sanchez isn't a more attractive asset than a Lester IMO.

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I don't know that I've ever paid out the ass for a young ace in any dynasty and zero regrets about it. Closest is maybe Braun for Harvey. Gimme a Max Scherzer or David Price over Cole and Syndergaard every time.

 

Except you spent a higher pick on Scherzer than I spent on Syndergaard, so really it was you who paid out the ass for someone who is demonstrably worse and 10 years older.

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Except you spent a higher pick on Scherzer than I spent on Syndergaard, so really it was you who paid out the ass for someone who is demonstrably worse and 10 years older.

 

It kind of feels like Scherzer will be throwing 200 innings long after Syndergaard's arm explodes.

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It kind of feels like Scherzer will be throwing 200 innings long after Syndergaard's arm explodes.

 

If Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay have taught us anything, it's that Scherzer's arm is just as likely to explode. The difference is how many good years they'd each have after the explosion. If you blow out your elbow at 23, you can lose a year and then have another good decade. Blow out your arm at 33, often it can be the end of the line.

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John Lackey's career is borderline miraculous, gotta hand it to him. He sucked for several years and was circling the drain, then somehow rebounded in his late 30s to have the true prime of his career. That is rare and remarkable. Even still, no one is going to draft him ahead of Gerrit Cole in a dynasty.
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It kind of feels like Scherzer will be throwing 200 innings long after Syndergaard's arm explodes.

 

He's also not worse.

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Well, you haven't ruined Smyly yet, at least.

 

Pretty sure he had a shoulder thing shortly after I traded him to Abom in BBDL a while back.

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If Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay have taught us anything, it's that Scherzer's arm is just as likely to explode. The difference is how many good years they'd each have after the explosion. If you blow out your elbow at 23, you can lose a year and then have another good decade. Blow out your arm at 33, often it can be the end of the line.

 

Yeah it's crazy to think how Doc and Lee just fell flat off the face of the earth. You would have thought both guys weren't an injury away from ending their careers and were going to be able to pitch at an elite level into their late 30's.

 

Even Brandon Webb's career came to a crashing end. It's unfortunate.

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John Lackey's career is borderline miraculous, gotta hand it to him. He sucked for several years and was circling the drain, then somehow rebounded in his late 30s to have the true prime of his career. That is rare and remarkable. Even still, no one is going to draft him ahead of Gerrit Cole in a dynasty.

 

Verlander looked like he was done, but he seems to have turned things around.

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Yeah it's crazy to think how Doc and Lee just fell flat off the face of the earth. You would have thought both guys weren't an injury away from ending their careers and were going to be able to pitch at an elite level into their late 30's.

 

Even Brandon Webb's career came to a crashing end. It's unfortunate.

 

Well Doc was due to a medical issue unrelated to his pitching. I'm sure Lee could have come back if he wanted to, but simply doesn't want to.

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His 4.37 xFIP this year says otherwise. (I think he'll bounce back, but almost every pitcher I've touched this year except Sanchez has been a disaster)

 

And you traded Stroman for him, who has gone into beast mode since then lol.

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Pretty sure he had a shoulder thing shortly after I traded him to Abom in BBDL a while back.

 

No one asked you

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BB's team is kinda interesting. I wonder at which point it's better to be competitive in both hitting and pitching rather than dominant in one and weak in the other. At this point it seems all but certain he's going to miss the playoffs, although losing Trevor Story and Strasburg down the stretch definitely has a lot to do with that.

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