Blue Jays sign Fausto Carmona, Brad Penny, claim Junior Lake

[reedjohnsonfan]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/blue-jays-sign-roberto-hernandez-brad-penny.html

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/blue-jays-claim-junior-lake.html

 

I like all of these moves but you wonder if they're just building depth because they aren't going to make any more significant additions. Lake has a bit of upside and Carmona is a good depth piece since he's old and can pitch a bunch of non-garb (maybe close to garbage) innings if he has to.

[intentional wok]

I don't think picking up depth should have any bearing on future "big" moves. Depth claims are nice insurance in almost every case and a shrewd org will try to do as much as they can to smooth over any potential roster pot holes. I wouldn't pass up a minor league contract for Fausto Carmona just because I had a line on Jacob deGrom or something.

 

I like all of these grabs too FWIW.

[Grant77]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/blue-jays-sign-roberto-hernandez-brad-penny.html

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/blue-jays-claim-junior-lake.html

 

I like all of these moves but you wonder if they're just building depth because they aren't going to make any more significant additions. Lake has a bit of upside and Carmona is a good depth piece since he's old and can pitch a bunch of non-garb (maybe close to garbage) innings if he has to.

 

I find the fact that Junior Lake is out of options to be interesting. I'm not saying this facilitates a move, but recent decisions make me think that trades involving our outfielders are being discussed.

[Laika]

I like all of these moves but you wonder if they're just building depth because they aren't going to make any more significant additions.

 

They need depth either way. I don't think there's any connection, although they've already made public representations that make it fairly clear that they aren't actively looking to make any big splashes because they don't think it's necessary.

[reedjohnsonfan]

They need depth either way. I don't think there's any connection, although they've already made public representations that make it fairly clear that they aren't actively looking to make any big splashes because they don't think it's necessary.

 

Yeah that may be true. I'm not sure what Penny has left but Carmona is definitely the type of guy you want as your 7th-8th starter and it looks like he'll be exactly that. You go with Hutch or Chavez as your #5 and have him ready for any injury. I mean really they just need a bunch of guys who can eat innings and keep the team in the game with their hitting, so Carmona > some unproven guy like Boyd or even Norris from early last year.

[King]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/blue-jays-sign-roberto-hernandez-brad-penny.html

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/blue-jays-claim-junior-lake.html

 

I like all of these moves but you wonder if they're just building depth because they aren't going to make any more significant additions. Lake has a bit of upside and Carmona is a good depth piece since he's old and can pitch a bunch of non-garb (maybe close to garbage) innings if he has to.

 

This is already being discussed in the offseason roster thread.

[Spanky99]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/blue-jays-sign-roberto-hernandez-brad-penny.html

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/blue-jays-claim-junior-lake.html

 

I like all of these moves but you wonder if they're just building depth because they aren't going to make any more significant additions. Lake has a bit of upside and Carmona is a good depth piece since he's old and can pitch a bunch of non-garb (maybe close to garbage) innings if he has to.

 

Uhhmm...we know. Decent depth, nothing to see here.

[Laika]

Yeah that may be true. I'm not sure what Penny has left but Carmona is definitely the type of guy you want as your 7th-8th starter and it looks like he'll be exactly that. You go with Hutch or Chavez as your #5 and have him ready for any injury. I mean really they just need a bunch of guys who can eat innings and keep the team in the game with their hitting, so Carmona > some unproven guy like Boyd or even Norris from early last year.

 

Yeah Hernandez is an excellent MiLB signing. So is Penny - in 2014 he was still sitting 92 and touching 95.

 

Hopefully at least one of them decides not to opt out at the end of ST.

[Spanky99]

Yeah that may be true. I'm not sure what Penny has left but Carmona is definitely the type of guy you want as your 7th-8th starter and it looks like he'll be exactly that. You go with Hutch or Chavez as your #5 and have him ready for any injury. I mean really they just need a bunch of guys who can eat innings and keep the team in the game with their hitting, so Carmona > some unproven guy like Boyd or even Norris from early last year.

 

Yer dumn.

[NotThatGuy]

Uhhmm...we know. Decent depth, nothing to see here.

 

Uncalled for.

[NotThatGuy]

Yer dumn.

 

Also uncalled for.

[CJ-Freeway]

#Plan the parade

[P2F]

I'm moderately intrigued by the Penny signing. He could become a pretty nice relief option if he's willing to come out of the 'pen, which I'd have to assume he'd be fine with.

[vilifyingforce]

I find the fact that Junior Lake is out of options to be interesting. I'm not saying this facilitates a move, but recent decisions make me think that trades involving our outfielders are being discussed.

 

He played more short in the minors then any other position. He's actually played every spot except catcher and pitcher in the minors.

[Spanky99]

I'm moderately intrigued by the Penny signing. He could become a pretty nice relief option if he's willing to come out of the 'pen, which I'd have to assume he'd be fine with.

 

Agreed, love the avatar, lol.

[Spanky99]

Uncalled for.

 

Also uncalled for.

 

S'up?

[Grant77]

He played more short in the minors then any other position. He's actually played every spot except catcher and pitcher in the minors.

 

I would have never guessed that and it's nice flexibility, but he hasn't played the infield at all since 2012 so it's probably safe to label him as an outfielder.