FrozenRopes Verified Member Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/09/20/smart-colorado-hearing-from-hundreds-hundreds-of-parents-about-pot-use/ All credibility lost
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Colorado also leads all 50 states in marijuana usage in children under 12 After all it is legal. Marijuana has also shown to impact brain development in young children I wonder how the parents here feel about that. I'm hoping that any new system will reduce availability to minors because that's a very valid point. I'm all for personal freedom, but it should be regulated like alcohol.
Rusty_Savage Verified Member Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I'd like to see Gibbons high
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/09/20/smart-colorado-hearing-from-hundreds-hundreds-of-parents-about-pot-use/ lol
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Wow that was about the dumbest thing I've read since ari goldkind's article on carding yesterday. Might even be dumber. Robert is a cancer
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Isn't smoking a joint bad for you simply because you're inhailing smoke? Oils or brownies seems like the best option
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 All these points of concern were being heavily stated when prohibition was lifted. Marijuana will be regulated just like alcohol is in Canada and the novelty will soon wear thin. Teenagers can easily obtain weed regardless, except obtaining it while illegal makes it more intriguing. Alcohol is far more dangerous, short and long term. Hey RealAccountant, why not conduct a survey to find out how many people who consume alcohol regularly add the usage of cocaine to the mix.
xposbrad Verified Member Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Isn't smoking a joint bad for you simply because you're inhailing smoke? Oils or brownies seems like the best option THC content also will determine the affects to your brain. However, there are numerous reports that do mention there are affects between marijuana use and: Brain structure volume, Quality of white matter,Ability to perform cognitive function all in teenagers. Which is why it is not recommended for anyone under 18 while they are still developing. I personally stay away from it, as I have seen what it has done to several of my friends who have been smoking since high school. They were incredibly smart, now I feel like their brains are practically fried. But then again, some studies suggest there are no permanent affects on your brain. So, who knows.
Governator Community Moderator Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 It's the holidays so I guess who gives a s***, but off topic is that way.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 There is so much subjective bias on this board that it is absolutely astounding. The article is there and cites actual studies. Either post contradictory studies that show legalization of marijuana ( not medicinal) does not increase usage in children or accept it. The truth is that the vast majority of the population does not use marijuana right now. It might be illegally sold at places but the vast majority does not break the law. This includes teenagers and children who either can't get their hands on it or don't consider it in their recreational habits. When marijuana is legalized it will be as easy to access as alcohol plus it will no longer be seen as illegal or taboo. This will.increase usafe drastivally The fact is that any drug that substantially alters the perception of a person should not be enabled by the government. That's my viewpoint on all of alcohol weed Tabacco caffiene narcotics
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 28, 2015 Author Posted December 28, 2015 New very long article by Lott in the National Post today: Toronto Blue Jays president Mark Shapiro more concerned with winning than being well-liked John Lott | December 28, 2015 10:17 AM ET http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/mlb/toronto-blue-jays-president-mark-shapiro-more-concerned-with-winning-than-being-well-liked
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 There is so much subjective bias on this board that it is absolutely astounding. The article is there and cites actual studies. Either post contradictory studies that show legalization of marijuana ( not medicinal) does not increase usage in children or accept it. The truth is that the vast majority of the population does not use marijuana right now. It might be illegally sold at places but the vast majority does not break the law. This includes teenagers and children who either can't get their hands on it or don't consider it in their recreational habits. When marijuana is legalized it will be as easy to access as alcohol plus it will no longer be seen as illegal or taboo. This will.increase usafe drastivally The fact is that any drug that substantially alters the perception of a person should not be enabled by the government. That's my viewpoint on all of alcohol weed Tabacco caffiene narcotics Alcohol was a lot more difficult to access in high school than weed. Do you actually believe that alcohol should be illegal?
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Also, from what I can tell, the study cited in your article was performed by an anti-legalization advocacy group called Smart Colorado. Their "Meet the Team" page is the following http://smartcolorado.org/meet-the-team/ If this group is responsible for the studies in question, I'm going to go ahead and question their qualifications for performing research.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 The fact is that any drug that substantially alters the perception of a person should not be enabled by the government. That's my viewpoint on all of alcohol weed Tabacco caffiene narcotics Anti-depressants, Ritalin, Adderall, Antipsychotics, Anticonvulsants, Barbiturates, Benzodiazepines, SSRI's (the most evil drug in the world), Seratonin...that's not even dealing into the household products that alter perception. I don't know much about this (did some research when a seemingly happy friend committed suicide 2 days after being put on an SSRI) but I know enough that there are millions of legal products which do alter perception.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 Yayyyyy, look what I started! I don't know what kind of high school system people went to, but alcohol was perfectly easy to get one's hands on based on what I saw. Plus the alcohol versus weed debate ignores one key factor when looking only at their legal status - weed in little baggies is just a lot more portable than a mickey of booze, and thus easier to sneak around with. Cigarettes were a lot more prevalent at my high school than either of those two and they are regulated in the same way as alcohol.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 It's obvious to anyone with a brain that recreational marijuana is bad for your health. It's not even clear if medicinal marijuana is a net positive in a lot of cases. Many 'respected' scientists concluded that tobacco was good for you for a long time as well. In the end though, it doesn't matter. This is Canada and people are free to do what they wish if it doesn't hurt others, period. That's why I support legalization. The one worry I have is a reliable test for drivers. In my limited experience, my motor skills are far more impaired after a few puffs than after 4-5 drinks. I agree with the sentiment. I honestly don't care what others consume as long as it doesn't bug me. My ultimate concern as a non-pot smoker nor smoker of any kind of substance is that weed is a lot more pungent and carries further than tobacco smoke. The current laws which work pretty well for tobacco in terms of limiting exposure and the irritating impact of second hand smoke are not sufficient for marijuana.
Governator Community Moderator Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 I agree with the sentiment. I honestly don't care what others consume as long as it doesn't bug me. My ultimate concern as a non-pot smoker nor smoker of any kind of substance is that weed is a lot more pungent and carries further than tobacco smoke. The current laws which work pretty well for tobacco in terms of limiting exposure and the irritating impact of second hand smoke are not sufficient for marijuana. Pretty sure smoking marijuana will be rather limited to at home / personal use. The key difference is that tobacco use started everywhere, people could do it on a plane if they wanted and they are having to scale it backward where as with marijuana wouldn't they create that legal definition from the get go? I don't think suddenly thousands are walking the streets smoking weed if/when it's legalized.
Statman Verified Member Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 Pretty sure smoking marijuana will be rather limited to at home / personal use. The key difference is that tobacco use started everywhere, people could do it on a plane if they wanted and they are having to scale it backward where as with marijuana wouldn't they create that legal definition from the get go? I don't think suddenly thousands are walking the streets smoking weed if/when it's legalized. The biggest concern is the large scale medical marijuana operations that are now popping up in residential areas. The one nearest to my home emanates an extremely potent "skunk" smell in about a 1km radius (depending on the wind) when I drive by it. Can only imagine what it is doing to the property values. It is like walking outside your home after a direct spray from a skunk on your property but 24 hrs a day 365 days a year.
Thomas Malthus Verified Member Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 I haven't been online much since it's the holidays but...what happened? o.O
Travis_Snider Verified Member Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 The biggest concern is the large scale medical marijuana operations that are now popping up in residential areas. The one nearest to my home emanates an extremely potent "skunk" smell in about a 1km radius (depending on the wind) when I drive by it. Can only imagine what it is doing to the property values. It is like walking outside your home after a direct spray from a skunk on your property but 24 hrs a day 365 days a year. can you get me some of this stuff:p
Statman Verified Member Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 can you get me some of this stuff:p Not without getting shredded by barbed wire fencing, dogs and a shotgun.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 Alcohol was a lot more difficult to access in high school than weed. Do you actually believe that alcohol should be illegal? Total opposite for me, but I had an older sister.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 “We got back within four or five years, which is hard to do, and painful … There was never that nine, 10, 22 years,” he says. http://i.imgur.com/xgz9nkR.gif
labadee Verified Member Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 Anti-depressants, Ritalin, Adderall, Antipsychotics, Anticonvulsants, Barbiturates, Benzodiazepines, SSRI's (the most evil drug in the world), Seratonin...that's not even dealing into the household products that alter perception. I don't know much about this (did some research when a seemingly happy friend committed suicide 2 days after being put on an SSRI) but I know enough that there are millions of legal products which do alter perception. it takes weeks for a SSRI to have any effect, so it's unlikely it was the SSRI that caused this, that being said i'm sorry to hear about that. However, it is a known side effect that in the initial stages (but we're talking about maybe the first couple weeks) there is an increase risk in suicide because it increases motivation by bringing down the depression, so for a short period of time, they are actually at an increased risk of suicide. I don't think SSRIs are the most evil drug in the world, i'm on them.
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 “We got back within four or five years, which is hard to do, and painful … There was never that nine, 10, 22 years,” he says. http://i.imgur.com/xgz9nkR.gif
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 What exactly are you quoting?
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 what exactly are you quoting? SHA-PIE-ROW cf
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 LOL! Alright, that's pretty good.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 it takes weeks for a SSRI to have any effect, so it's unlikely it was the SSRI that caused this, that being said i'm sorry to hear about that. However, it is a known side effect that in the initial stages (but we're talking about maybe the first couple weeks) there is an increase risk in suicide because it increases motivation by bringing down the depression, so for a short period of time, they are actually at an increased risk of suicide. I don't think SSRIs are the most evil drug in the world, i'm on them. I had an extremely strong reaction to 30 mg Vyvanse the first time I took it. Doesn't necessarily always take weeks.
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