The 2015 Winter Meetings (Dec 7-10)

[Praxis]

except that team was projected to win 86

 

Sorry, genuine question: which team? My recollection was that the Jays 2013 team was odds on favourite to win the World Series in Vegas.

[spittin]

Chris Young the pitcher has a 2 year deal worth 11.5 million with a yet to be named team.

Can anyone smart here explain the gap between Young's and Dickey's AAV? 5.5M they seem to be pretty similar assets imo.

[Praxis]

Can anyone smart here explain the gap between Young's and Dickey's AAV? 5.5M they seem to be pretty similar assets imo.

 

Apparently he's signed with the Royals along with Soria. Can't answer your initial question though. I would've taken Young on that deal.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/done-deals--mlb-winter-meetings-recap-news-signing-trade-145811378.html

[spittin]

Apparently he's signed with the Royals along with Soria. Can't answer your initial question though. I would've taken Young on that deal.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/done-deals--mlb-winter-meetings-recap-news-signing-trade-145811378.html

I'm left wondering if we didn't take Dickey's option who the hell would offer him 11M/yr? We could have offered him less later perhaps.

[BTS]

I'm left wondering if we didn't take Dickey's option who the hell would offer him 11M/yr? We could have offered him less later perhaps.

 

Dickey is pretty firmly a 2-3 win starter who's as close as it comes to being a lock for 200+ innings. I think he'd get 2/30 on the market.

[flafson]

Wonder what type of package Dodgers sent to get Chapman.

[spittin]

Dickey is pretty firmly a 2-3 win starter who's as close as it comes to being a lock for 200+ innings. I think he'd get 2/30 on the market.

 

From who though? The only teams that would use that as an argument for signing Dickey are signing better pitchers. The others would be the Tampa and Cleveland types who aren't armed with competitive payrolls, I don't think he'd get 2/30, no way.

[burlingtonbandit]

Can anyone smart here explain the gap between Young's and Dickey's AAV? 5.5M they seem to be pretty similar assets imo.

 

Dickey was also signed to the contract after winning the Cy Young.

[spittin]

Dickey was also signed to the contract after winning the Cy Young.

 

The option was executed this off season so that's irrelevant. Picking it up is saying we'd have at least offered 12/1yr.

[spittin]

Dickey f***ing sucks, he projects for a 4.73 FIP and roughly 2 K/BB while giving up lots of bombs.

[Nafro]

Holmes and Peraza? Reds then trade Brandon Phillips?

[burlingtonbandit]

The option was executed this off season so that's irrelevant. Picking it up is saying we'd have at least offered 12/1yr.

 

Yeah well look at the SP costs. If he's a 2 Win pitcher he will be well worth the 12 million. I will say I am a bit concerned with the lack of swing and miss last season. He usually gets off to terrible starts before getting better in the 2nd half as well.

[BTS]

Dickey f***ing sucks, he projects for a 4.73 FIP and roughly 2 K/BB while giving up lots of bombs.

 

Who cares what his FIP projection is? And even if you did, I'm pretty sure that Steamer isn't considering that he's a knuckleballer when projecting decline. Basically, projections are worthless for Dickey.

[Followthelight]

Dickey f***ing sucks, he projects for a 4.73 FIP and roughly 2 K/BB while giving up lots of bombs.

 

Since when were projections gospel, especially for knuckleballers?

[Boxcar]

Holmes and Peraza? Reds then trade Brandon Phillips?

 

That's a pretty lacklustre return. Kimbrel fetched a much better package.

 

Plz start him LA. Plzzzzzzzzzz

[King]

GoodBye Bellinger

[xposbrad]

Wouldn't be surprised if our new ninja GM walked away from these meetings having traded for Jose Fernandez. Now, Stroman/Fernandez is a legit top 2.

[CJ-Freeway]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016-mlb-free-agent-tracker

 

Don't see who on that list that we could afford and that would be as efficient as Lowe was?

[BTS]

Wouldn't be surprised if our new ninja GM walked away from these meetings having traded for Jose Fernandez. Now, Stroman/Fernandez is a legit top 2.

 

I would, in fact, be surprised if this happened. Quite surprised.

[BTS]

Don't see who on that list that we could afford and that would be as efficient as Lowe was?

 

Chad Qualls!

[Laika]

Don't see who on that list that we could afford and that would be as efficient as Lowe was?

 

Mark Lowe wasn't even very good as a Blue Jay. I don't understand the strong desire to have him back. Any RH RP will suffice. Maybe it's a minor league deal guy and Toronto gets the 2016 incarnation of "Mark Lowe".

[Sammy225]

All i really want is Tony Sipp

[GreekFatAss]

All i really want is Tony Sipp

 

When I first glanced at that I thought you said "All I really want is Some Tip"

[HERPDERP]

Mark Lowe wasn't even very good as a Blue Jay. I don't understand the strong desire to have him back. Any RH RP will suffice. Maybe it's a minor league deal guy and Toronto gets the 2016 incarnation of "Mark Lowe".

 

I understand that relievers are a crapshoot, but when you have a good team with a s*** bullpen, it gets infuriating. Look at 2014 Tigers, for example. It will be interesting to see if Hutch and Chavez end up turning into BP assets

[Laika]

I understand that relievers are a crapshoot, but when you have a good team with a s*** bullpen, it gets infuriating. Look at 2014 Tigers, for example.

 

Moot point; bullpen is already decent

[BTS]

I understand that relievers are a crapshoot, but when you have a good team with a s*** bullpen, it gets infuriating. Look at 2014 Tigers, for example. It will be interesting to see if Hutch and Chavez end up turning into BP assets

 

Cecil and Osuna are borderline elite, and Loup and Sanchez are pretty good too. There's nothing wrong with the pen.

[Cyborg]

I'm excited about Ben Rowen making the pen.

[Laika]

The offseason has simply become a part of the spectator sport.

 

People just want to see their team do STUFF. ANY STUFF.

 

Three years for Mark Lowe! Entertain me, executives! Give me something to retweet!!!!

[King]

Teams that have inquired on LHP Tony Sipp say he's looking for a Zach Duke-Boone Logan type contract. Three years, $5-6M per.

[burlingtonbandit]

Teams that have inquired on LHP Tony Sipp say he's looking for a Zach Duke-Boone Logan type contract. Three years, $5-6M per.

 

Even though the Jays don't really need another lefty I'd do that easily.