Goins 2016

[Jimcanuck]

Time for the annual Goins discussion.

 

What would he deliver as a full time SS? I voted 1.5 - 2.0 WAR.

[Inklink]

Can Goins

 

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[Swervin81]

I'd agree with 1.5-2.0 WAR.

 

Which is a really good bench player. Which is exactly where he should be.

[Jimcanuck]

Can Goins

 

http://www.toyhalloffame.org/sites/www.toyhalloffame.org/files/toys/square/stick_0.png

 

The question has been elevated to can he stick as a starter.

[Boxcar]

Someone actually voted that he would be an above average regular, lol.

 

E: Figured it was either Flafson or saskjaysfan. derrrrp

[Trouba95]

Gruber?

[gruber92]

Time for the annual Goins discussion.

 

What would he deliver as a full time SS? I voted 1.5 - 2.0 WAR.

 

Kind of a pointless discussion since he's not starting (barring an injury) and not worth trading as he'll provide more value as insurance that what we'd get back. Theoretically if he started 140 games minimum, he'd be in the 2-2.5 WAR range. Boxcar can lead the laughter, but you already went down this road before, did you not?

[Boxcar]

Kind of a pointless discussion since he's not starting (barring an injury) and not worth trading as he'll provide more value as insurance that what we'd get back. Theoretically if he started 140 games minimum, he'd be in the 2-2.5 WAR range. Boxcar can lead the laughter, but you already went down this road before, did you not?

 

totally forgot to stick your name in there too. thanks for the correction.

[gruber92]

totally forgot to stick your name in there too. thanks for the correction.

 

No problem. You love taking a beating, eh?

 

I hope to God Tulo or Travis don't suffer a season ending injury in spring training, but it would be hilarious to watch you and your pack get slapped again, but this time at a different level. Funny how the Goins discussion has elevated beyond him sticking to whether or not he'd be a viable starter. Never though this would ever happen, remember?

[King]

Steamer has Goins at 0.3 fWAR over 600 PAs

[gruber92]

Steamer has Goins at 0.3 fWAR over 600 PAs

 

Lol..

[Boxcar]

No problem. You love taking a beating, eh?

 

I hope to God Tulo or Travis don't suffer a season ending injury in spring training, but it would be hilarious to watch you and your pack get slapped again, but this time at a different level. Funny how the Goins discussion has elevated beyond him sticking to whether or not he'd be a viable starter. Never though this would ever happen, remember?

 

The odds weren't good, and he has succeeded in being a decent bench player. I'm happy about this.

 

I deal in probablities, not absolutes. Unlike you, apparently. My main goal is that the Jays improve, not about proving some dipshit on the internet wrong all the time. Just because you defied probability and were somewhat correct doesn't mean your opinion at the time was sound or rational.

[Boxcar]

Steamer has Goins at 0.3 fWAR over 600 PAs

 

ya but those don't take into account that Goins puts his bat on his shoulder now.

[Jimcanuck]

Yay, Gruber is here. Popcorn time!

[GreekFatAss]

Goins had a great year and I can't complain with him.

 

He is however a defensive specialist who will never hit so anything above 1 WAR is a bonus (like Pillar)

[nonamejays]

Somewhere +/- 1.0 WAR. Probably somewhere like 0.8 to 1.2.

[BTS]

Entering his age-28 season with a career 1 fWAR/600, and Steamer has him at ~0.6 fWAR/600. I'll say somewhere between 0.5 and 1.

[KingKat]

Time for the annual Goins discussion.

 

What would he deliver as a full time SS? I voted 1.5 - 2.0 WAR.

 

What hast though wrought?

[GD]

somewhere between -2 and +3

[Jonn]

He will be a good backup infielder and that's all that matters.

[Jimcanuck]

What hast though wrought?

 

It's the silly season

[Trouba95]

Voted 0.5-1 WAR

[KingKat]

It's the silly season

 

Oh it's silly arlight. This thread will probably reach 50 pages.

[admin]

Oh it's silly arlight. This thread will probably reach 50 pages.

 

I'll take it there.

 

I'll take any bets that averaged over 600 plate appearances it will be greater than 1.5WAR.

[Spanky99]

He's s*** a 25th man, who recovers and plays late in ganes or injury, period.

[Spanky99]

2 to 2.5 WAR our admin is dumn.

[Jimcanuck]

He's s*** a 25th man, who recovers and plays late in ganes or injury, period.

 

WTF man, he was a key part of a winning team this year. He won a bunch of games with his glove and his bat.

[Spanky99]

WTF man, he was a key part of a winning team this year. He won a bunch of games with his glove and his bat.

 

M'Kaaaay......Travis is da bomb.

[admin]

2 to 2.5 WAR our admin is dumn.

 

Take my bet. Whether banned or not by end of the season you have to pay though lol.

[Spanky99]

Take my bet. Whether banned or not by end of the season you have to pay though lol.

 

What bet?

 

Yes I'm in.