Sooo... when is it appropriate for AA to announce his deal with the Marlins?

[Dr. Dinger]

And how much money will it be? My guess is $25M over 5 years.

[Sammy225]

For his sake i don't think i would want him to work for Loria

[BigCecil]

And how much money will it be? My guess is $25M over 5 years.

 

I was thinking it and you said it. It wont be long. What a contrived s*** show this whole thing has been. Moving on.

[Dr. Dinger]

For his sake i don't think i would want him to work for Loria

 

This is 1000% about the money. Even if working for Loria is a shitshow, AA would be set for life after a year or two and can probably command a guaranteed contract.

[Dr. Dinger]

I was thinking it and you said it. It wont be long. What a contrived s*** show this whole thing has been. Moving on.

 

Contrived is a great word for it. I'm going to guess Nov 12.

[Sammy225]

Not to mention how ass backwards that dumpster fire of a organization is. Basically hiring a Manager before a GM. You would think that you would want a GM on board and help picking his manager then just throwing him in with a guy.... All the best to AA if this is the case because he will need it.

[Dr. Dinger]

Not to mention how ass backwards that dumpster fire of a organization is. Basically hiring a Manager before a GM. You would think that you would want a GM on board and help picking his manager then just throwing him in with a guy.... All the best to AA if this is the case because he will need it.

 

Did they, though? They fired their GM right before AA announced he wasn't returning to the Jays. They don't want to be accused of tampering, but I'd bet this deal was struck a couple weeks ago. Now they'll just allow for a mourning period before they announce.

[Sammy225]

Did they, though? They fired their GM right before AA announced he wasn't returning to the Jays. They don't want to be accused of tampering, but I'd bet this deal was struck a couple weeks ago. Now they'll just allow for a mourning period before they announce.

 

Makes all the sense in the world i guess lol.

[aselvana]

AA is a expo's fan. the man left the blue jays based on principle. it would be ironic if he ends up working for loria

[Spanky99]

Did they, though? They fired their GM right before AA announced he wasn't returning to the Jays. They don't want to be accused of tampering, but I'd bet this deal was struck a couple weeks ago. Now they'll just allow for a mourning period before they announce.

 

They almost hired Mark DeRosa before Mattingly agreed to listen and sign, smells of AA.

[Dr. Dinger]

AA is a expo's fan. the man left the blue jays based on principle. it would be ironic if he ends up working for loria

 

That remains to be seen. If he signs with the Marlins, then we know it was about the money; not principle.

[Dr. Dinger]

They almost hired Mark DeRosa before Mattingly agreed to listen and sign, smells of AA.

 

I also seriously doubt Mattingly would go there unless he knew Loria was bringing in a legit GM to turn around the franchise. It's been a couple years since the last Marlins firesale, so it's right about time for Loria to open up the wallet again. I'm guessing they throw down major contract offers to marquee FAs like they did in 2011.

[KingKat]

I also seriously doubt Mattingly would go there unless he knew Loria was bringing in a legit GM to turn around the franchise. It's been a couple years since the last Marlins firesale, so it's right about time for Loria to open up the wallet again. I'm guessing they throw down major contract offers to marquee FAs like they did in 2011.

 

Looks like AA will get his chance to be rejected by David Price after all.

[Atothe]

If this is true then that says all I need to know about him. Enjoy beautiful Miami though. Maybe all those gorgeous Latinas will convince him to drop weight and trade us Jose Fernandez

[Praxis]

So honest question here; Michael Hill is the President of Baseball Operations at the Marlins and his duties then do not include being GM of the franchise? I'm only curious because the press have been insisting that there are no GM vacancies in baseball at the moment.

[Jonn]

Really doubt he would work for Loria. Apparently the Dodgers offered him a pretty significant position. My bet is he takes that and waits until a job he wants opens up. Would probably be very good for him to work in that organization briefly as well.

[Spanky99]

So honest question here; Michael Hill is the President of Baseball Operations at the Marlins and his duties then do not include being GM of the franchise? I'm only curious because the press have been insisting that there are no GM vacancies in baseball at the moment.

 

Miami's GM Dan Jennings was fired the day AA had his presser, Alex was notified by Bob McCown...*nudge, nudge* *wink, wink*

[Praxis]

Miami's GM was fired the day AA had his presser, Alex was notified by Bob McCown...*nudge, nudge* *wink, wink*

 

Ah, thanks. Makes sense now.

[Dr. Dinger]

So honest question here; Michael Hill is the President of Baseball Operations at the Marlins and his duties then do not include being GM of the franchise? I'm only curious because the press have been insisting that there are no GM vacancies in baseball at the moment.

 

It's a bit of semantics, really. Dan Jennings was initially the Marlins GM this year. After they fired their manager, he became manager as well. On Oct 6, he was replaced as field manager. On Oct 29, he was fired as General Manager. On Oct 29, Anthopoulos officially turned down an extension from the Blue Jays, citing "the wrong fit." Regardless of title, there is an opening in the Marlins front office, and a connection between Anthopoulos and Loria (Expos).

[JaysAllMighty]

AA pretended that he didn't know Miami fired their GM. If he goes to Miami he was being deceitful and not bargaining in good faith with the Jays. It will tarnish his reputation imo. I don't care about him anymore, he's now an opponent to my Jays.

[Dr. Dinger]

Really doubt he would work for Loria. Apparently the Dodgers offered him a pretty significant position. My bet is he takes that and waits until a job he wants opens up. Would probably be very good for him to work in that organization briefly as well.

 

Why would he take a demotion to go to the Dodgers and become 3rd in command? With Friedman off the market, AA is poised to become one of the highest-paid GMs in baseball, and the best one available to a team with a vacancy.

[Dr. Dinger]

AA pretended that he didn't know Miami fired their GM. If he goes to Miami he was being deceitful and not bargaining in good faith with the Jays. It will tarnish his reputation imo. I don't care about him anymore, he's now an opponent to my Jays.

 

In Toronto, maybe, but these things are quickly forgotten. Executives get poached all the time, in baseball and business in general.

[Praxis]

It's a bit of semantics, really. Dan Jennings was initially the Marlins GM this year. After they fired their manager, he became manager as well. On Oct 6, he was replaced as field manager. On Oct 29, he was fired as General Manager. On Oct 29, Anthopoulos officially turned down an extension from the Blue Jays, citing "the wrong fit." Regardless of title, there is an opening in the Marlins front office, and a connection between Anthopoulos and Loria (Expos).

 

Appreciate the info; I haven't been able to find the situation as clearly explained anywhere else other than this board!

[Inklink]

That Marlins trade was a favour to Loria all along.

[Spanky99]

That Marlins trade was a favour to Loria all along.

 

lol

[Dr. Dinger]

Appreciate the info; I haven't been able to find the situation as clearly explained anywhere else other than this board!

 

It caps a weird, weird year for Jennings. He started the season as GM, as expected. He'd had that role since the end of the 2013 season. When the Marlins decided to fire manager Mike Redmond on May 17, they shocked everyone in baseball by making Jennings their field manager. He backed away from his GM duties then. When he was fired as Miami's manager after going 55-69 to finish the season, the Marlins offered Jennings his old GM job back. He was said to be mulling it over.

 

Something changed between then and now, because he's 100 percent out the door. The Marlins announced Michael Hill, their former GM and current president of baseball operations will also "assume the full responsibilities of the general manager position."

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/marlins-fire-dan-jennings-for-second-time-this-month-%E2%80%94-this-time-from-gm-job-001826857.html

 

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So perhaps Hill will be GM and Anthopoulos will be brought in as President.

[BTS]

AA operating under a $50M budget will be an absolute s*** show.

[Praxis]

It caps a weird, weird year for Jennings. He started the season as GM, as expected. He'd had that role since the end of the 2013 season. When the Marlins decided to fire manager Mike Redmond on May 17, they shocked everyone in baseball by making Jennings their field manager. He backed away from his GM duties then. When he was fired as Miami's manager after going 55-69 to finish the season, the Marlins offered Jennings his old GM job back. He was said to be mulling it over.

 

Something changed between then and now, because he's 100 percent out the door. The Marlins announced Michael Hill, their former GM and current president of baseball operations will also "assume the full responsibilities of the general manager position."

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/marlins-fire-dan-jennings-for-second-time-this-month-%E2%80%94-this-time-from-gm-job-001826857.html

 

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So perhaps Hill will be GM and Anthopoulos will be brought in as President.

 

Wow, what a s*** show in Miami. Unbelievable.

 

Good luck to AA working with the lowest payroll in baseball, especially with that organization!

[Spanky99]

It caps a weird, weird year for Jennings. He started the season as GM, as expected. He'd had that role since the end of the 2013 season. When the Marlins decided to fire manager Mike Redmond on May 17, they shocked everyone in baseball by making Jennings their field manager. He backed away from his GM duties then. When he was fired as Miami's manager after going 55-69 to finish the season, the Marlins offered Jennings his old GM job back. He was said to be mulling it over.

 

Something changed between then and now, because he's 100 percent out the door. The Marlins announced Michael Hill, their former GM and current president of baseball operations will also "assume the full responsibilities of the general manager position."

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/marlins-fire-dan-jennings-for-second-time-this-month-%E2%80%94-this-time-from-gm-job-001826857.html

 

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So perhaps Hill will be GM and Anthopoulos will be brought in as President.

 

I thought Hill was interim for the time being, meh, either way, where there's smoke there's fire. It all adds up. Not to mention AA wouldn't be tarnishing his reputation, it's his choice, especially if it's inline with a promotion. Good for him.

[TheHurl]

For his sake i don't think i would want him to work for Loria

 

He started with Loria. When he said it was a 3 year plan after the Marlins deal...he meant it in a completely different way