Blue Jays to hire Mark Shapiro as new president/CEO following 2015

[Stangstag]

He's had five years to make the playoffs. We don't live in a vacuum of one year. GM is a results-based job, if he can't make the playoffs in five years, that's on him. He's had his shot, he's been given massive payroll spending compared to his predecessors. You can blame it on the players if we miss, but you can't blame five years of no-playoffs on a GM getting bad luck.

 

If the 2013 team was healthy, they would have made the playoffs for sure.

[JuniorFelix]

His WAR quote is fantastic. I like that kind of talk from a president.

 

Said quote?

[nmrch]

If the 2013 team was healthy, they would have made the playoffs for sure.

 

Uhm, we lost the division by 23 games! Bad luck had little to do with what happened that season.

[metafour]

Also for the record, AA was handed a pretty good big league team, coming off an 86 win year. Granted they still finished 4th but you don't get to excuse the first two years because they're rebuilding years when the decision to rebuild was AA's in teh first place. He could have easily chosen to retool and tried to compete with Halladay. MAybe we wouldn't have been better off(although the ultimate return on the Halladay trade suggests that we would have) but AA made an active choice to tear it down, it was not inevitable.

 

The decision was not AA's. Rogers invested a lot of money on Ricciardi's last ditch spending spree. When those moves flopped and the team failed, they fired Ricciardi and brought in a young upstart with zero GM experience. You think they hired him and told him "sure, keep piling salary onto this roster"? It was obvious that they wanted a rebuild, otherwise they would have hired a more established veteran GM if their plan was to keep progressing with what Ricciardi left. Beeston's 5-year FA stipulation assured that he couldn't go crazy in FA even if he wanted to add to an ageing Halladay, and Ricciardi left a s***-heap minor league system which meant that he couldn't trade for MLB help either.

[Followthelight]

If the 2013 team was healthy, they would have made the playoffs for sure.

 

lol.

[burlingtonbandit]

One 90 win season(knock on wood!) in 5 years and a bottom 10 farm system. For every Donaldson trade there's a Syndergaard trade and for every Travis trade there's a Gomes trade. A GM isn't just responsible for the sucess of the big league club in a given year. If we were to rank how every organization did in the last 5 years, not just in wins and playoff success but also accumulation of assets and getting value for the buck, do you think the Jays would be in the top 15 ? I somehow doubt it. Just because AA's successes have been backloaded doesn't mean he deserves an extention.

 

Shapiro should be given complete freedom to hire who ever he wants. AA hasn't done enough to be given immunity under new management.

 

If you were to look at team evaluations with Major league team+farm system included the Jays would easily be top 10 right now top 5 even. If a GM had to pick a team to go to without factoring ownership, payroll and all that top 5 would probably be:

 

Astros

Pirates

Cubs

Blue Jays

Cardinals/Red Sox/Giants

[KingKat]

IIRC, Halladay was pressing for a trade before AA was even hired.

[ValiantJaysFan]

If I'm Mark Shapiro and I see what AA has done this year, he's staying. If the Jays flop for the next 2-3 years he can fire AA and argue that it wasn't his guy to begin with and bring in someone else. Win-win.

[Smokey]

If the 2013 team was healthy, they would have made the playoffs for sure.

 

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[GD]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE thx

[bronson44]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE thx

 

I REALLY want this to happen.

[Atothe]

If they do fire AA, I trust Shapiro to make this franchise a hit. More resources for him to play with

[Trouba95]

Please bring him in as pres.

[metafour]

This Cleveland guy (unknown reliability) says its a done deal:

 

 

Mike Melaragno

‏@melaragno_22

Mark Shapiro will become the President and CEO of the Toronto #Bluejays. It should be made official tomorrow or Monday... #TribeLive

[BTS]

This is awesome. Shapiro is really smart. Probably time to root for the Jays again.

[GD]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ​i

[GD]

This is awesome. Shapiro is really smart. Probably time to root for the Jays again.

 

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[GD]

"Writer for Burning River Baseball and owner of Raise The Bar Fitness.#Indians, #Browns #Buckeyes fan. Take The Gun, Leave The Cannoli."

 

kinda skeptical

[Orgfiller]

I would prefer a reliable source to come out and confirm this before getting excited, but hopefully the guy is right and it's a done deal.

[dineke]

My sources tell me it's false and that Jack Zduriencik met with rogers today...

[Atothe]

wow, what a time to be a jays fan

[BTS]

My sources tell me it's false and that Jack Zduriencik met with rogers today...

 

lol, this would be so deflating

[GD]

lol, this would be so deflating

 

#Despaired

[metafour]

"Writer for Burning River Baseball and owner of Raise The Bar Fitness.#Indians, #Browns #Buckeyes fan. Take The Gun, Leave The Cannoli."

 

kinda skeptical

 

Yeah, his credentials aren't huge, but to be fair the big-name media is basically hinting at the same thing, except they aren't fully committed in their reporting yet.

 

This guy even went on to name who would be taking over the Presidential role for the Indians, so either he's going all-in with the ********/guesses, or he actually knows something.

[Orgfiller]

My sources tell me it's false and that Jack Zduriencik met with rogers today...

 

Damn you, I hadn't even put this anywhere near my concern list.

[GD]

Yeah, his credentials aren't huge, but to be fair the big-name media is basically hinting at the same thing, except they aren't fully committed in their reporting yet.

 

This guy even went on to name who would be taking over the Presidential role for the Indians, so either he's going all-in with the ********/guesses, or he actually knows something.

 

Yeah the confidence he has kinda makes me think a bit. He's all in like you said. He's definitely not making s*** up for attention, I just hope his source is accurate.

[dineke]

lol the guy has 200 followers, he has nothing to lose

[43211234]

This is awesome. Shapiro is really smart. Probably time to root for the Jays again.

 

Sorry, once you leave you're never allowed back in.

 

This source seems fairly legit but if we can get Kevin Gray to confirm it that would be great.

[Jayzfan79]

Sorry, once you leave you're never allowed back in.

 

This source seems fairly legit but if we can get Kevin Gray to confirm it that would be great.

 

lol i like what Yu did there.

[ElNik2013]

IIRC, Halladay was pressing for a trade before AA was even hired.

 

 

 

And the Jays didn't win 86 games in 2009 either which was part of the reason trading Halladay was discussed during the 2009 season after it was learned Halladay would not sign an extension.