Tulo and Hawkins to the Jays for Reyes, Castro, Hoffman and Tinoco

[o2cui2i]

yes I admit that the situation might have affected him...if he gets back to the 5 WAR SS this is a clear win. I just don't like some of his warning signs (a lot pretty similar to Reyes). I think finally getting Tulo in fantasy starting just last year has soured me on him slightly. I think the next three days should be very interesting in Blue Jays world. Last time AA did this I hated the follow up move...this time if there isn't one it takes away from the Tulo move.

 

our rotation is still weak. We have Pompey who should come up and be our LF, but we don't really have 5 guys who can make quality starts every 5 days.

 

God it would be nice to have Stro-show right about now.

[Dr. Dinger]

I remember in 2012, Tulo had an off-year and got hurt, and everyone was wondering if he was actually that great. Then he posted two 5+ win seasons and was the best player in baseball through 90 games last year. He is extremely talented, that much is clear.

 

He was easily going to win MVP last year until the injury. Just a monster line.

[Boxcar]

Is this confirmed? I'd really like to know... hopefully Tulo can get here soon enough.

 

The Rockies have announced that the deal is official.

[pickoff22]

This deal would have been extraordinary if they added Dickey to that trade

 

Why? We need him as our pitching stands right now, he's been better as of late and we're only committed to him for the rest of this year at a low salary.

[King]

The Rockies have announced that the deal is official.

 

Confirmed that Tulo will not be in tonights game

[TheHurl]

I got him in fantasy this year too. He was crap in April and May but he's been almost vintage since iirc.

 

Huge June (153 wRC+) but back down in July (87 wRC+).

[TwistedLogic]

Tulo seems awesome but I haven't really seen him play TBH. With the injuries, I just hope AA did his due dilegence and scouted him fully... he's not been himself this year... should we expect the same going forward or is there some regression expected?

 

It would be great if it wound out like the Headley deal from last season. Headley was also a pretty serious injury concern at the time, and he was sort of stagnating in San Diego (1.5 fWAR in the first half of the season prior to the trade). Tulo is pretty much doing the exact same thing this year (1.2 fWAR prior to being traded), except a lot of his value his offensive, while Headley's was defensive.

 

A change of scenery halfway through the year seemed to rejuvenate Headley, and he ended up posting 2.7 wins over the remainder of the season in New York. It would be beautiful if we could see something similar from Tulo.

[Angrioter]

WC death match

 

Dallas Keuchel Vs Mark Beuhrle

[jaysblue]

WC death match

 

Dallas Keuchel Vs Mark Beuhrle

 

Fastest wildcard game in history?

[LTR]

WC death match

 

Dallas Keuchel Vs Mark Beuhrle

 

lol

[LTR]

Fastest wildcard game in history?

 

Fastest ALL IN fail in history

[Governator]

I wish I had software that could just read me everyones posts from this forum in audible format so I could work and listen. It would make for a much more productive day.

[o2cui2i]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/inside-the-shocking-trade-of-troy-tulowitzki-125111163.html

[Hghar]

Would anyone with ESPN insider mind posting Keith Law's article?

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=4160

[Sammy225]

So now we got both Ricky Romero and Tulo best of both in that draft lol

[awsomest]

 

tulos first ever hit LOL

[TwistedLogic]

Dan O'Dowd is on MLB Central right now, and he says he thinks the Jays got a "one win above replacement improvement in 2015, I think maybe 3 going forward". Most GMs aren't as dumb as we make them out to be.

[The Cats Ass]

Nick Cafardo

Reyes told me the only thing he didn't like about playing in Toronto was the turf

 

Well he should have agreed to DH a game every now and then.

[Spanky99]

Dan O'Dowd is on MLB Central right now, and he says he thinks the Jays got a "one win above replacement improvement in 2015, I think maybe 3 going forward". Most GMs aren't as dumb as we make them out to be.

 

This has been pretty great all morning, but going out for lunch. Dammit!

[The Cats Ass]

Both Reyes and Tulo are injury prone. Tulo may be less stubborn than Reyes though and agree to DH some games to rest and preserve his body. Injuries for each of them mean different things too. Reyes' value is tied a lot more to his legs than Tulo's are.

 

If I had to choose an injury prone SS, 100% I'd go with the guy who has a monster bat over the ageing slap hitting speedster.

[Hghar]

Dan O'Dowd is on MLB Central right now, and he says he thinks the Jays got a "one win above replacement improvement in 2015, I think maybe 3 going forward". Most GMs aren't as dumb as we make them out to be.

 

Hundred bucks said he ripped this straight off Dave Cameron's article where Dave said the exact same thing last night

[Governator]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/inside-the-shocking-trade-of-troy-tulowitzki-125111163.html

 

"At 50-50 despite a plus-95 run differential, the best in the American League, the Blue Jays’ pitching this season has torpedoed its fortunes."

 

That is one super sad stat.

[o2cui2i]

"At 50-50 despite a plus-95 run differential, the best in the American League, the Blue Jays’ pitching this season has torpedoed its fortunes."

 

That is one super sad stat.

 

future quiz question.....

[Governator]

Hundred bucks said he ripped this straight off Dave Cameron's article where Dave said the exact same thing last night

 

or because projections say so..?

[TwistedLogic]

This is an old tweet now, but wow what a f***ing stupid comment.

[o2cui2i]

will LaTroy Hawkins be our closer now?

[BlueBirdBro]

God there are so many comments on Orioles Hangout I wish I could reply to. "Toronto gave up three significant arms in this deal" I count 1 1/2.

[KingKat]

Even if Tulo and Reyes turn out to be the same guy (not a given but a possibility) and even if all that's being accomplished by swapping one for the other is pushing the s***** years further back, that's totally worth it for the Jays. In the short term, the core got stronger and the s*** end of the Reyes deal dissapeared. That's worth cashing in some future for.

[Governator]

will LaTroy Hawkins be our closer now?

 

No....

[HERPDERP]

God there are so many comments on Orioles Hangout I wish I could reply to. "Toronto gave up three significant arms in this deal" I count 1 1/2.

 

That's cause if you put those arms in the Orioles system they're all Top 10. Just shows had bad the system over there is.