Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Hey y'all, here's so pirated content: Rowdy Tellez [TABLE=class: info] [TR] [TD]http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/images/headshot_102764.jpg [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=colspan: 2]Born: 03/16/1995 (Age: 20) [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Bats: Left [/TD] [TD]Throws: Left [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Height: 6' 4" [/TD] [TD]Weight: 245 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=colspan: 2]Primary Position: 1B [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=colspan: 2]Secondary Position: [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: mechanics, width: 62%] [TR=class: header] [TD]Physical/Health [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Big, strong, well developed; impressive physical size; some softness to the body, may not age well; some concerns about so much weight on such a young player but has actually improved physical conditioning over the past year. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: evaluator, width: 36%] [TR] [TD=class: header]Evaluator [/TD] [TD]Jeff Moore [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: header]Report Date [/TD] [TD]07/21/2015 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: header]Dates Seen [/TD] [TD]7/17/15,7/18/15 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: header]Affiliate [/TD] [TD]Dunedin Blue Jays (High A, Blue Jays) [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: repertoire, width: 100%] [TR=class: header] [TD]MLB ETA [/TD] [TD]Risk Factor [/TD] [TD]OFP [/TD] [TD]Realistic Role [/TD] [TD]Video [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2017 [/TD] [TD]Moderate [/TD] [TD]55 [/TD] [TD]50, Major league regular [/TD] [TD]No [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: tool, width: 100%] [TR=class: header] [TD]Tool [/TD] [TD=class: mid1]Future Grade [/TD] [TD]Report [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Hit [/TD] [TD=class: mid]55 [/TD] [TD]Some movement in pre-pitch setup, low hands but gets into consistent hitting position; upright stance, uses height well; good swing path, direct to the ball, good plate coverage; above-average bat speed; patient approach; above-average bat control, especially for a tall player with some length to his swing; used whole field; strong understanding of the strike zone, approached at-bats with a plan. [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Power [/TD] [TD=class: mid]60 [/TD] [TD]Plus raw power, presently plays to above-average in games because of some natural length in swing due to long arms; could get to plus in games if he continues refinement of hit tool and swing mechanics; can leave the park to all fields; best when getting arms extended; creates backspin to all fields; ball jumps off his bat. [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Baserunning/Speed [/TD] [TD=class: mid]20 [/TD] [TD]Very slow, will eventually be a base clogger; 4.76 to first base; will have no value on bases; will not earn any additional hits with legs. [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Glove [/TD] [TD=class: mid]40 [/TD] [TD]Not an asset defensively, but won't be a major liability either; hands are not soft but makes routine plays; limited range; won't help infielders often on bad throws. [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Arm [/TD] [TD=class: mid]50 [/TD] [TD]Average arm, neither asset or liability. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: overall, width: 100%] [TR=class: header] [TD]Overall[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Tellez has taken significant steps forward both in terms of his physical development and his baseball skills, turning himself into a potential everyday first baseman at the big league level. He uses his size well, and while it limits him defensively and on the bases to a profile that is completely reliant on his bat, it also gives that potential to provide enough value to get away with that profile. Because of his size, he doesn't have to sell out for power, allowing his hit tool to play up. He shows strong bat control for a player of his size, and while there will always be some swing and miss because of the natural length in his swing, he maneuvers the barrel well within the strike zone and shows a propensity for using the whole field. He has plus raw power, and the progress of his hit tool will give that power a chance to reach its ceiling in the big leagues. Even if it falls just short, it should be enough to warrant regular playing time. Tellez is a bat only prospect, which is a difficult profile, but with an above-average hit tool and the potential for plus power, he should have enough in his bat to still provide value in a major league lineup. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Anthony Alford [TABLE=class: info] [TR] [TD]http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/images/headshot_100152.jpg [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=colspan: 2]Born: 07/20/1994 (Age: 20) [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Bats: Right [/TD] [TD]Throws: Right [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Height: 6' 1" [/TD] [TD]Weight: 205 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=colspan: 2]Primary Position: CF [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=colspan: 2]Secondary Position: [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: mechanics, width: 62%] [TR=class: header] [TD]Physical/Health [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Long legs, high waist; muscular build, already well developed physically; football background evident from build. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: evaluator, width: 36%] [TR] [TD=class: header]Evaluator [/TD] [TD]Jeff Moore [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: header]Report Date [/TD] [TD]07/20/2015 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: header]Dates Seen [/TD] [TD]7/17/15,7/18/15 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: header]Affiliate [/TD] [TD]Dunedin Blue Jays (High A, Blue Jays) [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: repertoire, width: 100%] [TR=class: header] [TD]MLB ETA [/TD] [TD]Risk Factor [/TD] [TD]OFP [/TD] [TD]Realistic Role [/TD] [TD]Video [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2017 [/TD] [TD]Moderate [/TD] [TD]60 [/TD] [TD]55, above-average regular [/TD] [TD]No [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: overall, width: 100%] [TR=class: header] [TD]Makeup [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Aggressive mentality; engaging with teammates; did not seek confrontation but did not shy away either when it found him. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: tool, width: 100%] [TR=class: header] [TD]Tool [/TD] [TD=class: mid1]Future Grade [/TD] [TD]Report [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Hit [/TD] [TD=class: mid]60 [/TD] [TD]Neutral set up, some pre-swing hand movement but gets into position consistently; pronounced leg kick in load; plus bat speed; short swing, can get rotational at times, at best when he stays up the middle, which he typically does; identifies spin on breaking balls well; patient approach and strong understanding of strike zone; plus barrel skills, consistently finds the sweet spot and hits the ball hard. [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Power [/TD] [TD=class: mid]50 [/TD] [TD]Plus bat speed; physical strength; power to all fields in batting practice; game power lagging behind raw power due to limited experience, but no concerns about it's development; swing plane creates backspin, gets carry on fly balls. [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Baserunning/Speed [/TD] [TD=class: mid]60 [/TD] [TD]4.1 to first base from right side; premium athlete, gets to full speed quickly. [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Glove [/TD] [TD=class: mid]60 [/TD] [TD]Uses speed well on defense, glides smoothly from gap to gap; gets good reads on fly balls; should be a plus defender. [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Arm [/TD] [TD=class: mid]50 [/TD] [TD]Average arm strength; not an asset but enough for center field; won't be exposed. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: overall, width: 100%] [TR=class: header] [TD]Overall[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Alford is a legitimate five-tool threat, with average or better skills across the board. He's a plus athlete, as evidenced by his background as a college football player. Despite having split his time across two sports, however, his baseball skills are very refined. He's much further along the developmental track than most two-sport athletes. His athleticism will allow Alford to remain in the middle of the field, where he should be an asset in center. His most impressive skill, however, is his hit tool. Plus bat speed allows him to currently get away with some mechanical issues in his swing, including a pronounced load that will be quieted over time, but the issues are minor and are more than compensated for by his innate feel fro finding the barrel. He squares the baseball up routinely and it jumps off of his bat. He's not displaying the power expected from him just yet, but he shows it off in batting practice and his strength and bat speed suggest it will come in time, as power is often the last tool to develop. If it all comes together, Alford has the potential to be one of the best center fielders in the game. Even if the hit tool or power come in a grade below their ceiling, he should be a good everyday player, but if the bat reaches its ceiling, he could be a key player on a very good team. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Edited July 23, 2015 by Dr. Dinger
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Author Posted July 23, 2015 Wow so Tellez is actually a guy now. A very encouraging report on Alford too. If Tellez can be a Matt Adams, or something like that, I'd take that for sure.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 If Tellez can be a Matt Adams, or something like that, I'd take that for sure. Matt Adams + 3% walk rate
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Author Posted July 23, 2015 Alford the next Moookie? Similar skillset, it would seem. Plus hit tool with discipline and speed. Alford is a lot bigger and more physical though, so he might actually have more power in the long run.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Prior to the season I predicted Alford would bust, and now he's looking like the next Puig.
43211234 Verified Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Pompey vs. Alford: who was the higher career WAR? Pompey closer to the majors but Alford may have the slightly better hit tool. Good debate imo.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Pompey vs. Alford: who was the higher career WAR? Pompey closer to the majors but Alford may have the slightly better hit tool. Good debate imo. Pompey > Alford
Vdubfan Verified Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 "Identifies breaking balls well" "strong understanding of the strike zone" I hope people appreciate how incredible this is for a 20yo guy in Hi-A who, for the first year in his life, is focusing on one sport. SWOON
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Pompey vs. Alford: who was the higher career WAR? Pompey closer to the majors but Alford may have the slightly better hit tool. Good debate imo. I'll say they both become valuable major league guys, but if I was going off this report, I'd take Alford.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Pompey vs. Alford: who was the higher career WAR? Pompey closer to the majors but Alford may have the slightly better hit tool. Good debate imo. Pompey is a headcase and mentally he won't last in the bigs. Alford is mature and a natural leader. Similar offensive tools to Pompey. Better defense. its a wash
Vdubfan Verified Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Pompey is a headcase and mentally he won't last in the bigs. Alford is mature and a natural leader. Similar offensive tools to Pompey. Better defense. its a wash A headcase? That seems strong unless your privy to more information than what media has put out there. He was a rushed 21yo who didn't handle failure too well in his first go around. That is common.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Pompey is a headcase and mentally he won't last in the bigs. Alford is mature and a natural leader. Similar offensive tools to Pompey. Better defense. its a wash Just to be clear, this post was sarcastic, right?
LTR Verified Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Pompey is a headcase and mentally he won't last in the bigs. Alford is mature and a natural leader. Similar offensive tools to Pompey. Better defense. its a wash He's young dude, he just hasn't developed that maturity and mental confidence... when that comes look out.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Just to be clear, this post was sarcastic, right? What is there to be sarcastic about? Go look up the interviews from his previous coaches. The guy has an attitude problem. And the mental problems made themselves clear with his infamous "playing scared" comments.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 you don't believe me, read up on all the goodies here: http://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2015/03/20/hometown-hero.html fighting with teammates, jealousy, giving attitude to coaches.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 "He would show up late for practices and games, and whenever he made a mistake he was quick to blame someone else. Pompey was an exceptionally talented player from a very young age; baseball had always come easily to him. But when he reached a point that his attitude was getting in the way of his ability, he knew he had to make a change. “I was stupid. I was immature. I made mistakes,” Pompey says. “I stopped working hard—I thought I was all talent. And then people started to pass me and that was a big eye-opener for me. I had to grow up. I had to take responsibility for my career and be accountable for things.” http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/the-remarkable-rise-of-dalton-pompey/
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 you don't believe me, read up on all the goodies here: http://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2015/03/20/hometown-hero.html fighting with teammates, jealousy, giving attitude to coaches. Are you kidding me? You're going to judge his character based on s*** he did at 15? Do you have any idea what in insufferable piece of s*** the average 15 year old is?
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Are you kidding me? You're going to judge his character based on s*** he did at 15? Do you have any idea what in insufferable piece of s*** the average 15 year old is? Oh c'mon, GD's not THAT bad.
baubau Verified Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 The reports on Alfrod are very encouraging. One has to imagine where he would be right now had he given up football earlier. Oh well, at least he is focusing on baseball now and looks to be up-trending nicely.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 The reports on Alfrod are very encouraging. One has to imagine where he would be right now had he given up football earlier. Oh well, at least he is focusing on baseball now and looks to be up-trending nicely. Of course that will always be on our minds, but for all we know, playing football as much as he did could have helped his development. He seems very well-built, extremely athletic, and he's got some good instincts. All of those things can be developed and honed in playing football at a high level. He's still advanced for his age, so it's not like he was late to the dance. If it makes it easier, just think of it as having drafted him out of college instead of high school.
Virgil_Hiltz Verified Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 The reports on Alford are very encouraging. One has to imagine where he would be right now had he given up football earlier. Oh well, at least he is focusing on baseball now and looks to be up-trending nicely. May only matter now for stats but in a cpl years he"ll be right where he belongs. This hasn't hampered his development that it would put a dent in his overall MLB career. Besides, he had to get football off his mind to fully concentrate and develop as a baseball player.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Author Posted July 23, 2015 It's actually kinda funny that Alford's weakest (but still average) tool is his arm, considering he was originally a QB.
Laika Community Moderator Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 It's actually kinda funny that Alford's weakest (but still average) tool is his arm, considering he was originally a QB. Probably explains why he very quickly fell down the college football totem pole, from QB to RB to Corner to Safety to Kicker and then to armed campus thug. Luckily for the Blue Jays he avoided raping anybody.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Author Posted July 23, 2015 Luckily for the Blue Jays he avoided getting caught raping anybody. ftfy
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Of course that will always be on our minds, but for all we know, playing football as much as he did could have helped his development. He seems very well-built, extremely athletic, and he's got some good instincts. All of those things can be developed and honed in playing football at a high level. He's still advanced for his age, so it's not like he was late to the dance. If it makes it easier, just think of it as having drafted him out of college instead of high school. Considering he got in trouble a lot playing at Ole Miss, he probably went through some maturation or some s***. Or just got better at concealing weapons.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 "He would show up late for practices and games, and whenever he made a mistake he was quick to blame someone else. Pompey was an exceptionally talented player from a very young age; baseball had always come easily to him. But when he reached a point that his attitude was getting in the way of his ability, he knew he had to make a change. “I was stupid. I was immature. I made mistakes,” Pompey says. “I stopped working hard—I thought I was all talent. And then people started to pass me and that was a big eye-opener for me. I had to grow up. I had to take responsibility for my career and be accountable for things.” http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/the-remarkable-rise-of-dalton-pompey/ Hey i bet Bautista was worse as a teenager. Pompey = Bautista-lite? Seriously though, when it comes to Pompey and Alford I see them as very similar ballplayers, with a good chance of both being above average OFs.
baubau Verified Member Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Pompey is a headcase and mentally he won't last in the bigs. Alford is mature and a natural leader. Similar offensive tools to Pompey. Better defense. its a wash http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/29/blue-jays-prospect-anthony-alford-arrested-after-incident-with-gun-on-campus/ Very "mature". I am not going to sit here and judge someone on a situation, despite the article I posted, as you, I nor likely anyone else on this forum really know the players. To judge someone from a distance and articles out of context of the situation is asinine. You clearly have your own bias.
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