fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Do you think it's a good move to claim him? Apart from the fact he's making $13M this year he seems to have pitched fine the past 3 years, good enough to justify claiming him and giving him a few starts over whoever we decide to give the #5 spot to until Sanchez returns. http://i.imgur.com/wMNdRB2.png
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Claiming would be stupid af we might as well just sign him to a minor league deal but as a flier guy there's no risk
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Author Posted July 20, 2015 Claiming would be stupid af we might as well just sign him to a minor league deal but as a flier guy there's no risk You think everyone's gonna pass and he's gonna land in the FA pool? Cool even better lol
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 You think everyone's gonna pass and he's gonna land in the FA pool? Cool even better lol No one is claiming his contract or he'd have been traded by now They'll probably outright him to AAA so I doubt he goes anywhere regardless
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 With all that money, E-Jax will almost certainly go to free agency, and the Cubs are going to eat most of the remaining contract (except for a pro-rated minimum when he signs with another club). Nobody's touching that $13M for 2016 and whatever's left of his 2015 salary.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 If we can't afford swallowing Navarro and his 5m, we won't be able to touch Jackson
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Author Posted July 20, 2015 No one is claiming his contract or he'd have been traded by now They'll probably outright him to AAA so I doubt he goes anywhere regardless I don't know too much on assignments but can't he reject his AAA assignment? Or if he passes waivers is he forcefully outrighted? I'm guessing he'll lose his $26M if he rejects the assignment.
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I don't know too much on assignments but can't he reject his AAA assignment? Or if he passes waivers is he forcefully outrighted? I'm guessing he'll lose his $26M if he rejects the assignment. he won't refuse
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I don't know too much on assignments but can't he reject his AAA assignment? Or if he passes waivers is he forcefully outrighted? I'm guessing he'll lose his $26M if he rejects the assignment. He'll accept the assignment. Like you said he's not turning down $26m.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 he won't refuse He has nearly 10 years of service time, and his contract is guaranteed. Cubs are going to have to pay that contract.
AdamGreenwood Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I think there's a rule that if a guy has enough service time, he can refuse to go to the minors without losing his contract.
Laika Community Moderator Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I think there's a rule that if a guy has enough service time, he can refuse to go to the minors without losing his contract. I'm pretty sure you're right, and it's something like 5 or 6 years of service time.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 World must be nearing its much predicted end, raysjays got one right.
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Author Posted July 20, 2015 He has nearly 10 years of service time, and his contract is guaranteed. Cubs are going to have to pay that contract. I think there's a rule that if a guy has enough service time, he can refuse to go to the minors without losing his contract. I'm pretty sure you're right, and it's something like 5 or 6 years of service time. If the player is not claimed (clears waivers), the club may option him or assign him outright to the minor leagues, though he must continue to be paid according to the terms of his contract. A player may be assigned outright to the minors only once in his career without his permission. Thereafter, he may either 1) reject the assignment and become a free agent, or 2) accept the assignment and become a free agent at the end of the season if he’s not back on the 40-man roster. Additionally, player with 3 years of major league service may refuse an outright assignment and choose to become a free agent, regardless of whether he has been sent outright to the minors previously. A player with 5 years of major league service time who refuses an outright assignment is entitled to the money due according to the terms of his contract. Source You guys are right. 5 years+ can reject an assignment and still get paid his entire contract.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 If he gets released he will not be signing with the Jays. I can see him signing with a city he enjoys being in I think that if no one wants him I would see if I can get the cubs to pay 70% of his salary ( as they would have to pay 100% otherwise
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 If he gets released he will not be signing with the Jays. I can see him signing with a city he enjoys being in If we catapulted you out of Toronto, would that make it an enjoyable enough city for MLB players?
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Do you think it's a good move to claim him? Apart from the fact he's making $13M this year he seems to have pitched fine the past 3 years, good enough to justify claiming him and giving him a few starts over whoever we decide to give the #5 spot to until Sanchez returns. http://i.imgur.com/wMNdRB2.png Because he's s***!!!
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Do you think it's a good move to claim him? Apart from the fact he's making $13M this year he seems to have pitched fine the past 3 years, good enough to justify claiming him and giving him a few starts over whoever we decide to give the #5 spot to until Sanchez returns. http://i.imgur.com/wMNdRB2.png FATCOW.....you've failed. Immensely.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) I wouldn't mind taking a flier on him. No risk. The Toronto/Canada factor doesn't matter as he's not signing a long term contract. He will be looking for somewhere where there is a opportunity to start so it's a decent fit. Edited July 20, 2015 by jays4life19
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I wouldn't mind taking a flier on him. No risk. The Toronto/Canada factor doesn't matter as he's not signing a long term contract. He will be looking for somewhere where there is a opportunity to start so it's a decent fit. He will look NL first then out West then probably New York etc. He has an agent who probably will steer him away from the homerun dome
TheHurl Site Manager Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Deal already done with the Dodgers. Book it.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Deal already done with the Dodgers. Book it. Are the Indians still a good pick. Just waiting for the right time to buy in
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 He will look NL first then out West then probably New York etc. He has an agent who probably will steer him away from the homerun dome Or maybe an agent who will steer him in favour of the team where he can put up a 15+ win season just by checking in every 5 days, a la MB or Hutch.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Are the Indians still a good pick. Just waiting for the right time to buy in Still 35-1. Honestly Jays at the same odds are probably a better bet right now. Even though I don't like the Angels at 14-1 they aren't the worst bet (currently at a 20% chance of making it to the WS)
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 He will look NL first then out West then probably New York etc. He has an agent who probably will steer him away from the homerun dome There's no guarantee anyone will give him a guaranteed contract. Considering his control issues, and terrible numbers in recent years, he may be lucky to get a minor league deal at best.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Or maybe an agent who will steer him in favour of the team where he can put up a 15+ win season just by checking in every 5 days, a la MB or Hutch. He won't get that. He hasn't been a quality pitcher since 2011-2012.. that contract the Cubs gave him was horrible in every way.
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 There's no guarantee anyone will give him a guaranteed contract. Considering his control issues, and terrible numbers in recent years, he may be lucky to get a minor league deal at best. He'll definitely get a minor league deal... The Cubs are paying his salary, so he can go wherever he thinks is his best chance to win/put up good numbers. Also, lol at "minor league deal at best", because somehow Edwin Jackson is going to wind up pitching in indie ball this year.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 He'll definitely get a minor league deal... The Cubs are paying his salary, so he can go wherever he thinks is his best chance to win/put up good numbers. Also, lol at "minor league deal at best", because somehow Edwin Jackson is going to wind up pitching in indie ball this year. Well, he's not getting a major league deal. Most teams see his poor 2013-14 numbers.. and he was a mop-up man for the Cubs. He'll have to prove himself in someone's minor league system if he wants to be back in the majors again in a meaningful role.
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