06/17/2015 GDT. Mets vs Jays. 7.07 PM.

[Trouba95]

Good thing the Jays won.. looks like we're not gaining ground vs. the Rays and Yankees, as they are winning. Still have a shot to pick up ground on the Rangers and Twins, though..

 

Ya, Go Cards and Dodgers.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Lol get over yourself, it wasn't some miraculous catch. We'll see that play and better hundreds of times in the remainder of the season.

 

First off Org, FYSMC and shut up already, please !

 

You and Gruber pistols at Dawn should settle this nicely!

[jaysfan2014]

Position player alert--Ryan Raburn pitching in Cleveland right now.

[jaysfan2014]

Yanks win.. dang. Go Cards and Dodgers!

[Trouba95]

Streaming Cards vs Twins.

[gruber92]

I've been reading. It's weird to get this excited about one game

 

If Org acted like you are right now, you'd get pissed at him.

 

Meh, not sure about that. It's just kind of funny that he said that Goins is probably not even a top ten defensive middle infielder. I know there are tons of guys with as good or better range, but his hands and consistency is what lofts him in the top five. Almost every middle infielder in the MLB is capable of making a jaw dropping play.

[Jimcanuck]

Delabar is looking like a pitching key.... if he keeps this up it takes a lot of pressure off osuna and cecil.... and bring the bullpen to a level where the focus can be solely on obtaining SP help

[Captain Adama]

Consistency in baseball is a thing.

 

Consistently bad?

[Jimcanuck]

Meh, not sure about that. It's just kind of funny that he said that Goins is probably not even a top ten defensive middle infielder. I know there are tons of guys with as good or better range, but his hands and consistency is what lofts him in the top five. Almost every middle infielder in the MLB is capable of making a jaw dropping play.

 

Little doubt Goins is elite defensively. Where he ranks who knows, but apparently there's a stat for that.

 

What is not in question is you can be an ass.

[Atothe]

Gruber will never accept the fact that Goins is not a good ball player.

[Trouba95]

Goins is elite on D, not so much with the bat. END OF STORY.

[GD]

Meh, not sure about that. It's just kind of funny that he said that Goins is probably not even a top ten defensive middle infielder. I know there are tons of guys with as good or better range, but his hands and consistency is what lofts him in the top five. Almost every middle infielder in the MLB is capable of making a jaw dropping play.

 

Gruber, you're this offended that he said Goins might not be top 10. If he gloated like you have been every time Goins went 0fer you would be absolutely irate and you know it.

[Effit]

Goins is elite on D, not so much with the bat. END OF STORY.

 

Except when he's at Fenway.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Didn't he shut us down in Oakland a year or two ago?

 

Yeah I think so. He could do it again, he does have a nice 2 seamer that could lead to a lot of choppers, but for my fantasy team's purposes I'm considering benching him lol.

[gruber92]

Gruber, you're this offended that he said Goins might not be top 10. If he gloated like you have been every time Goins went 0fer you would be absolutely irate and you know it.

 

But everybody does call Goins a pos when he goes 0-4, i'm not sure how often Org does it though. The thing is that i know, and have stated this several times, that Goins is not a good hitter. Before the Travis trade, i was hoping he could hit just a little to justify AA starting him at second base. I know how important solid defence up the middle is and i couldn't stand watching Tolleson and Kawasaki not make plays, like turning two in particular, playing second. You guys just don't fully understand how important it is to have a reliable middle infielder, the ripple effect it has is huge.

 

Travis is obviously our starting second baseman, he can flat out rake. I honestly didn't expect his defence to be this good, especially after watching him early on in ST. Goins has to stay on the 25 man and be a late defensive replacement for Reyes.

[glory]

That Monday game stings. Now have to depend Runs Aplenty Dickey to go for the split.

[gruber92]

Consistently bad?

 

Another slug who thinks offence is the only thing that exists.

[North of 60]

Nice win.

 

14 in a row...oh wait

[Trouba95]

Ugh Dickey tomorrow. Bound to give up at least 3. Want to dump him badly.

[Smokey]

ITT: A sad old man feels vindicated and starts gloating after watching a replacement level player make a couple of nice defensive plays... Smh

[Daniel Labude]

A very good team win tonight!!!!!!!!!

[BTS]

Gruber probably thinks John McDonald was good at baseball.

[Dylan]

Who was better at D, Johny Mac or Goins?

[BTS]

Who was better at D, Johny Mac or Goins?

 

Mac, probably

[gruber92]

Gruber probably thinks John McDonald was good at baseball.

 

Well then he's sure a serious con man into fooling MLB GM's for 15 years.

[gruber92]

Mac, probably

 

I wonder if you're really serious.

[gruber92]

ITT: A sad old man feels vindicated and starts gloating after watching a replacement level player make a couple of nice defensive plays... Smh

 

I'm usually pretty happy most of the time. How about you bro? Are you happy?

[BTS]

Well then he's sure a serious con man into fooling MLB GM's for 15 years.

 

Is it so unbelievable? Delmon Young has been doing it for ten, and GMs know more than ever before.

[Abomination]

I wonder if you're really serious.

 

Mac easily (imo). Goins is still very very good defensively though.

[Jimcanuck]

Mac easily (imo). Goins is still very very good defensively though.

 

Fangraphs indicates they are quite comparable defensively. Virtually the same player on the field and at the plate IMO