R.I.P. Jose Reyes sucks at baseball thread

[FrozenRopes]

Only idiots take Scott seriously. He has never been on the field in his life.

[FrozenRopes]

Troll

[burlingtonbandit]

It's hard to blame fans for thinking like this, given what the media tells them. The broadcasters have been ripping on Reyes for a while; Howarth is campaigning for Goins to start every day and the rest of them say stuff like this:

 

 

It's annoying how this is the lens through which many fans learn the game.

 

Also hard to blame fans when they watch and Reyes make a ton of stupid mistakes at the worst of times. He's better than Goins obviously but he has to be one of the most frustrating players to watch with the lack of fundamentals and mental errors.

[Boxcar]

It's hard to blame fans for thinking like this, given what the media tells them. The broadcasters have been ripping on Reyes for a while; Howarth is campaigning for Goins to start every day and the rest of them say stuff like this:

 

 

It's annoying how this is the lens through which many fans learn the game.

 

Certified Googlestician Scotty Stats telling it like it is

[ElNik2013]

I know the old board brings back a lot of bad memories to lots of posters here, but here's a look back at the day the Jays got Reyes:

 

 

http://www.forums.mlb.com/discussions/Toronto_Blue_Jays/_/_/ml-bluejays/87162.1

[GD]

Certified Googlestician Scotty Stats telling it like it is

 

I like how he capitalizes the letters in his name to form RSN for Rogers Sportsnet, he's a real company guy

[Boxcar]

I like how he capitalizes the letters in his name to form RSN for Rogers Sportsnet, he's a real company guy

 

It's so clever. However, if you don't know what RSN stands for it just looks like he's a retard.

[GD]

It's so clever. However, if you don't know what RSN stands for it just looks like he's a retard.

 

even if you do know lol

[nextyear]

Does anyone know the stats for the total runs scored by the Blue Jays versus total runs allowed when Reyes starts a game this season? (including earned and unearned runs) It would be interesting to compare it with the same stats for when he doesn't start.

[Boxcar]

Does anyone know the stats for the total runs scored by the Blue Jays versus total runs allowed when Reyes starts a game this season? (including earned and unearned runs) It would be interesting to compare it with the same stats for when he doesn't start.

 

Interesting...or completely and entirely useless?

[bill]

Interesting...or completely and entirely useless?

 

Unnecessary to look at those stats. Simply watching the game clearly illustrates Reyes sucks

[BTS]

The most concerning performance on the team this season is Edwin's. Over his three monster seasons he was in the 12-13% BB rate and 10-15% K-rate area. His walk rate is less than 11% and his K-rate has shot up to 21%. He's also hitting a lot more ground balls and making more soft contact. He has a 102 wRC+ and projections have cooled on him by almost 20% from preseason.

 

At 217 PA this year, it's concerning.

[labadee]

I know the old board brings back a lot of bad memories to lots of posters here, but here's a look back at the day the Jays got Reyes:

 

 

http://www.forums.mlb.com/discussions/Toronto_Blue_Jays/_/_/ml-bluejays/87162.1

 

the excitement in that thread brings back memories. i was having goosebumps that day

[GD]

You heard it here first, Jose Reyes is a -7 WAR player guys.

[BTS]

I've been watching the Blue Jays for 25 years now. I've never witnessed such a bipolar player before.

 

Reyes will actually win you 2-3 games a years with his bat.

 

But he'll lose you 10 with his glove and brain (lack thereof).

 

Howarth is right though: This team would probably be better off with Goins at SS.

 

Mods, please ban. No need to let this go 500 posts.

[Boxcar]

I've been watching the Blue Jays for 25 years now. I've never witnessed such a bipolar player before.

 

Reyes will actually win you 2-3 games a years with his bat.

 

But he'll lose you 10 with his glove and brain (lack thereof).

 

Howarth is right though: This team would probably be better off with Goins at SS.

 

Yeah, definitely. Last year in almost 200 PAs, Ryan Goins somehow managed a TWENTY SIX wRC+ so he has improved this season. Maybe if we're lucky he'll be replacement level.

[Statman]

Holy f***!

 

Every game this guy finds ways to lose with his s***** defense, poor plate discipline and base running. How is it even possible to fail so much in a single game? This guy is magnetically drawn to losing.

 

Today's game summary:

- Flails away at bad 0-2 pitch (with the bases loaded!) and hits a lucky bloop single

- Throwing error costs Jays runs

- Almost throws another one in the dirt on next play

- Gets caught trying to stretch a single into a double

 

http://i.imgur.com/M4OSiq3.jpg

 

This f*** has got to go.

 

Reyes is s*** now but his overall skill set at SS is still better than anyone else the Jays have in this organization.

[saskjayfan]

Reyes has 10 hits in 29 at bats since coming back. That's what you want. He's being overly aggressive trying too hard to make things happen. Gibby has to pull him into the office and tell him to get his head out of his ass. Bautista has to kick him in the balls and tell him he's costing the jays games. He's going to hit and steal bases. He just needs to work harder mentally and physically preparing for games. He's still a talent.

[nextyear]

Reyes is s*** now but his overall skill set at SS is still better than anyone else the Jays have in this organization.

 

This just isn't reality. Jose Reyes turns almost every play into a suspense as to rather he will mess it up one way or another. Although there are many Goins haters on this forum, Goins is a very talented SS, much better on the field than Reyes.

[Sorrow]

My biggest concern with Reyes is his walk rate. He was in the 10s regularly with the Mets, 8 when he first came to Toronto and something like 3.5 the last few years. It's brutal.

[ElNik2013]

the excitement in that thread brings back memories. i was having goosebumps that day

 

 

Yeah, tons of excitement. One reason was because some posters were fooled into thinking Rogers was opening up the wallet and would make more money available if needed.

 

Anyway, too late now.

[Boxcar]

This just isn't reality. Jose Reyes turns almost every play into a suspense as to rather he will mess it up one way or another. Although there are many Goins haters on this forum, Goins is a very talented SS, much better on the field than Reyes.

 

Ryan Goins

 

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[ElNik2013]

My biggest concern with Reyes is his walk rate. He was in the 10s regularly with the Mets, 8 when he first came to Toronto and something like 3.5 the last few years. It's brutal.

 

Agreed. I mentioned this on some other thread. I think it's gone from 8% in 2013 to 6% last year to 2% in 90 PA's this year.

 

It's really a waste of time though, he's not going anywhere.

[Brownie19]

How much longer do we have him? 2 more years? Reyes at second, replaced by a real shortstop would be a lot more palatable...

 

Travis makes that challenging now though

[jays4life19]

Ryan Goins

 

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lmao.

[Praxis]

How much longer do we have him? 2 more years? Reyes at second, replaced by a real shortstop would be a lot more palatable...

 

Travis makes that challenging now though

 

Who knows when Travis is coming back though? His injury rehab seems to be regressing with every passing week.......

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-devon-travis-shut-down-for-a-week/

[burlingtonbandit]

The most concerning performance on the team this season is Edwin's. Over his three monster seasons he was in the 12-13% BB rate and 10-15% K-rate area. His walk rate is less than 11% and his K-rate has shot up to 21%. He's also hitting a lot more ground balls and making more soft contact. He has a 102 wRC+ and projections have cooled on him by almost 20% from preseason.

 

At 217 PA this year, it's concerning.

 

Really don't want to sign him long term. His body is going to break down big time I would imagine.

[Spanky99]

K..........

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

10 mill this year, 6-10 mill going forward and kiss him goodbye! A outfielder or pitcher will do! Heck might even take nothing even! Lol

[Zaun of the Dead]

if they could trade him I would be pretty stoked