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[Spanky__99]

My concern was raised by somebody in the comments section - sure you're reducing the intensity of each start but you're dramatically reducing the time between games.

 

But such a hard limit on starters doesn't necessarily need to result in dropping two starters, right? And that's where the increased pitch counts for relievers comes in I suppose.

 

You can still have 5-6 starters, but you'd vastly reduce a pen, leaving an outstanding bench. It'll certainly be neat to see.

[TheHurl]

Since we're talking about this kind of thing right now, has this been linked recently?

 

http://www.billjamesonline.com/the_three_man_starting_rotation/

 

Edit: Article is by Bill James outlining how a 3 man rotation would work - with a 5 inning or 80 pitch limit.

 

MLBPA would file a grievance against the team unfortunately. The Rays have already been warned of this.

[Spanky__99]

MLBPA would file a grievance against the team unfortunately. The Rays have already been warned of this.

 

I've already mentioned this, you're late Hurl.

[Thomas Malthus]

MLBPA would file a grievance against the team unfortunately. The Rays have already been warned of this.

 

It seems sort of strange - I mean if the argument for it is that pitchers will perform better and be injured less frequently then the pitchers will probably come to appreciate that. And if the roster size per team isn't' changing there's no loss of employment, right? However, I suppose it's players in an "iconic" (or something) position that are being replaced?

 

I dunno. Got any links to this grievance stuff? (I'll look backwards in the thread to see what's been linked, just heading to bed now though).

[TheHurl]

It seems sort of strange - I mean if the argument for it is that pitchers will perform better and be injured less frequently then the pitchers will probably come to appreciate that. And if the roster size per team isn't' changing there's no loss of employment, right? However, I suppose it's players in an "iconic" (or something) position that are being replaced?

 

I dunno. Got any links to this grievance stuff? (I'll look backwards in the thread to see what's been linked, just heading to bed now though).

 

This was first hand information from someone in the Rays organization. Creating starters out of guys that wouldn't normally start is a positive for those guys, but there are guys that get paid to eat innings (and those guys have traditionally been paid more than the 130 inning guys, despite lower numbers). Also there is no traditions in arbitration to judge these guys, so it makes it tough. In the end MLBPA doesn't like change (nor does baseball in general), but I wouldn't think they would go public with anything until they felt it was necessary.

Tampa was forced into a hybrid of what they would really like to do, but they also had so many injuries that it made it happen with too much notice. I was in Tampa for a game just after Erasmo was pulled in a 1 hitter and the person I know there was telling me that they scoured every media source to see what the reaction was.

[TheHurl]

I've already mentioned this, you're late Hurl.

 

I'm late with just about everything these days.

[ClevelandBrownsFan2]

Since we're talking about this kind of thing right now, has this been linked recently?

 

http://www.billjamesonline.com/the_three_man_starting_rotation/

 

Edit: Article is by Bill James outlining how a 3 man rotation would work - with a 5 inning or 80 pitch limit.

 

At the very least, it would be fun to try in an MLB The Show Franchise. I'm definitely doing this over the holidays when I get some time lol.

[jaysfan2014]

Phillies sign JPA to a minor-league deal--and considering Philly's a rebuilding team, he has a decent shot of making that team and striking out 200+ times and playing bad defense:

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/phillies-sign-j-p-arencibia.html

[HERPDERP]

Phillies sign JPA to a minor-league deal--and considering Philly's a rebuilding team, he has a decent shot of making that team and striking out 200+ times and playing bad defense:

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/phillies-sign-j-p-arencibia.html

 

poor Aaron Nola.

[KingKat]

Phillies sign JPA to a minor-league deal--and considering Philly's a rebuilding team, he has a decent shot of making that team and striking out 200+ times and playing bad defense:

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/phillies-sign-j-p-arencibia.html

 

They also penned Greg Infante. That's a great signing for a rebuilding team. Guy would be sick if he ever managed to cut down the walks for any length of time. Throws as hard as anyone.

[HERPDERP]

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 3m3 minutes ago

Sources: Johnny Cueto has an agreement with the Giants, pending a physical.

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[HERPDERP]

Your move, Dodgers.

[King]

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 2m2 minutes ago

cueto has agreement with giants. 6-year deal.

 

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 1m1 minute ago

cueto deal will be for more than he turned down with AZ. buster olney 1st with agreement.

[Frenchsoup]

This probably won't end well for the Giants.

[GD]

San Fran looking competitive.

[King]

Jerry Crasnick ‏@jcrasnick 19s19 seconds ago

Johnny Cueto's deal with #SFGiants is for six years and $130M with an opt out after 2 years.

[Thomas Malthus]

So are the Giants out of the running on Maeda then?

[vdubmvp]

I don't know why I keep subjecting myself to Sid Seixeiro's opinions on baseball. This needs to stop.

[L54]

I don't know why I keep subjecting myself to Sid Seixeiro's opinions on baseball. This needs to stop.

 

He's the worst.

[CJ-Freeway]

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 3m3 minutes ago

Sources: Johnny Cueto has an agreement with the Giants, pending a physical.

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lol Dodgers got f***ed by everyone

[xposbrad]

Good deal for the giants. They have a pretty solid rotation now.

[Cyborg]

lol Dodgers got f***ed by everyone

They got Iwakuma.

[CJ-Freeway]

They got Iwakuma.

 

Not bad but they lost Greinke, supposedly got Chapman but got cockblocked at the last second, and were supposedly suitors for Price and didn't end up getting him.

[xposbrad]

Doesn't CA have a much higher tax rate than Arizona? I think Cueto is actually making less with the Giants than if he would have signed in Arizona.

[itaos]

Doesn't CA have a much higher tax rate than Arizona? I think Cueto is actually making less with the Giants than if he would have signed in Arizona.

 

CA income tax is more than 2.5x Arizona at high incomes

[THANOS]

I'm guessing LA will be all in on Maeda now.

[HERPDERP]

LA fans shouldn't bitch and complain. They're the team that is signing all the international FA

[burlingtonbandit]

Heyward's contract details came out. Understand why he took less total money now as it looks like a great contract for the player. Also came with a 20 Million signing bonus.

 

[burlingtonbandit]

So basically 3/78 with a full no trade clause and a 5/106 player option.

[Grant77]

Heyward's contract details came out. Understand why he took less total money now as it looks like a great contract for the player. Also came with a 20 Million signing bonus.

 

 

Props to Heyward's agent, that's a fine deal for him.