Maahfaace Verified Member Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 gibbons was a beast tonight
MrMariusz Verified Member Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Didn't Gibbons only just a few days ago say that Janssen would no longer close UNLESS the other options are unavailable ? Why didn't we see Sanchez? Janssen is a disaster waiting to happen every time he comes on the mound. Why is Gibbons making decisions as if the Blue Jays were already playoff bound? I'm not sure what is more stupid, putting in the rookie against the Sox best batter or handing the ball to a washed-up closer again, lots of roulette going on.
prayforthejays Verified Member Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Didn't Gibbons only just a few days ago say that Janssen would no longer close UNLESS the other options are unavailable ? Why didn't we see Sanchez? Janssen is a disaster waiting to happen every time he comes on the mound. Why is Gibbons making decisions as if the Blue Jays were already playoff bound? I'm not sure what is more stupid, putting in the rookie against the Sox best batter or handing the ball to a washed-up closer again, lots of roulette going on. Honestly never listen to anything Gibbons say's because whatever comes out of his mouth is normally pure BS....to be fair though Sanchez was not available to pitch.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 People hated cito yet under cito we reached 86 wins with a terrible rebuilding team and he was shown the door
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Hope this loss just wakes up this team . The loss of Melky , the shitshow comedy of errors and the bad bullpen management should piss off every player and coach on that team. we'll see Maybe it'll make Navarro get in shape and become the greatest defensive catcher of all time, after all, that's all that's keeping him from reaching this level. Oh and maybe Reyes will get in shape as well thus turning into Ozzie Smith 2.0 since we know the reason bad defensive players are bad is because they're in bad shape.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 People hated cito yet under cito we reached 86 wins with a terrible rebuilding team and he was shown the door I have said this a million times, but the last two times Rogers spent any money and the team had playoff aspirations, Gibbons was manager. From 2006 to 2014, Gibby's record is 351-349. From 2008-2010, Gaston was 211-201, even though the team wanted to lose in 2009 and 2010. I know people are going to say managers don't matter and it's the talent that wins or losses, and that's true to some extent, but managers can have negative qualities that bring their teams down. Look what Buck Showalter is doing. Everyone has been waiting for the Orioles to decline since 2012 and it never happens. If Gibbons is still manager next season, then rebuild. He's not going to take this team beyond .500, if that.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 sorry I watched this one today.... frustrating. bad loss
prayforthejays Verified Member Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Maybe it'll make Navarro get in shape and become the greatest defensive catcher of all time, after all, that's all that's keeping him from reaching this level. Oh and maybe Reyes will get in shape as well thus turning into Ozzie Smith 2.0 since we know the reason bad defensive players are bad is because they're in bad shape. I honestly don't understand how a professional athlete can be in that bad of shape. You can blame Genetics all you want but ya he need's to really commit to his fitness this offseason.
prayforthejays Verified Member Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 I have said this a million times, but the last two times Rogers spent any money and the team had playoff aspirations, Gibbons was manager. From 2006 to 2014, Gibby's record is 351-349. From 2008-2010, Gaston was 211-201, even though the team wanted to lose in 2009 and 2010. I know people are going to say managers don't matter and it's the talent that wins or losses, and that's true to some extent, but managers can have negative qualities that bring their teams down. Look what Buck Showalter is doing. Everyone has been waiting for the Orioles to decline since 2012 and it never happens. If Gibbons is still manager next season, then rebuild. He's not going to take this team beyond .500, if that. The problem is I think AA and Gibbons are actually close and good friends. That is a serious problem. I think the firing has to come from the top.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 I have said this a million times, but the last two times Rogers spent any money and the team had playoff aspirations, Gibbons was manager. From 2006 to 2014, Gibby's record is 351-349. From 2008-2010, Gaston was 211-201, even though the team wanted to lose in 2009 and 2010. I know people are going to say managers don't matter and it's the talent that wins or losses, and that's true to some extent, but managers can have negative qualities that bring their teams down. Look what Buck Showalter is doing. Everyone has been waiting for the Orioles to decline since 2012 and it never happens. If Gibbons is still manager next season, then rebuild. He's not going to take this team beyond .500, if that. Well, at least they're rebuilding the rotation with young arms rather than making another Josh Johnson style acquisition. And at least Gibbons and Gaston had winning records.. John Farrell, who managed the Jays in 2011-12, and the Red Sox presently, is below .500 as a manager (154-170).. Boston should've kept Francona, because Farrell is one of the worst managers in the MLB. And Gaston left because he was retiring (he's 70 years old.), and the Jays wanted someone younger.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 s***** s***** game last night Janssen can't be trusted and I hope Gibby uses someone else to close the rest of the year All is not lost but they need to win today and win another bunch immediately. No sulking. Just win.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 YOU CAN DO IT! Go Jays Go! DO IT NOW! Just Win Baby!
nextyear Verified Member Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Well, at least they're rebuilding the rotation with young arms rather than making another Josh Johnson style acquisition. And at least Gibbons and Gaston had winning records.. John Farrell, who managed the Jays in 2011-12, and the Red Sox presently, is below .500 as a manager (154-170).. Boston should've kept Francona, because Farrell is one of the worst managers in the MLB. And Gaston left because he was retiring (he's 70 years old.), and the Jays wanted someone younger. I think Francona was available when the Blue Jays hired Gibbons. I wish Toronto could have gotten him instead. Gibbons' move last night to pinch run for Goins was one of many bone-headed moves that he has made this year. You know a manager's decisions are bad when just about everyone watching on TV realizes immediately that it doesn't make any sense.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 I still don't understand why he didn't keep Morrow in for another inning.... he was pitching well and surely has the stamina to go longer. You save your BP arms for later and the possible extra innings
Rotator Verified Member Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 I think Francona was available when the Blue Jays hired Gibbons. I wish Toronto could have gotten him instead. Gibbons' move last night to pinch run for Goins was one of many bone-headed moves that he has made this year. You know a manager's decisions are bad when just about everyone watching on TV realizes immediately that it doesn't make any sense. No I believe Francona was already signed by Cleveland that offseason, I know I was hoping the jays would sign him.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 I still don't understand why he didn't keep Morrow in for another inning.... he was pitching well and surely has the stamina to go longer. You save your BP arms for later and the possible extra innings Because Gibbons is not a good manager. Its always been like that, it will always be like that. He wasn't good then and he isn't good now. Many many mental errors
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Do you watch that show? I'm a professional nerd, of course I watch that show (well, watched since the BBC decided that their best comedy since Red Dwarf didn't need any more seasons...)
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