DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 So, where are the comparables? I'm just a f***ing idiot. I can't find them. Phil Hughes, Brandon McCarthy, Chris Carpenter, Scott Kazmir. Lots of comparables.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Morrow's option is $10M, the buyout is $1M.... so the option really costs $9M.... which is very cheap for a mid-rotation starter, even an injury prone one
Gorlak Verified Member Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 The Jays will go with Cecil as closer next year unless he blows it in spring training, At which point they will just go by match ups until somebody steps up or is hot for a while. Sanchez will only end up a closer if he proves he can't start.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2014 Author Posted September 5, 2014 Morrow's option is $10M, the buyout is $1M.... so the option really costs $9M.... which is very cheap for a mid-rotation starter, even an injury prone one So Morrow pitched in 60% of 2012, 25% of 2013, 15% of 2014 based on that, Morrow will likely pitch 33.33% of 2015, lets say 35%. so now the question is 9M good for a third of the season of a mid rotation starter
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Morrow's option is $10M, the buyout is $1M.... so the option really costs $9M.... which is very cheap for a mid-rotation starter, even an injury prone one Morrow isn't a mid-rotation starter at this point though. Or at least he probably isn't.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2014 Author Posted September 5, 2014 So Morrow pitched in 60% of 2012, 25% of 2013, 15% of 2014 based on that, Morrow will likely pitch 33.33% of 2015, lets say 35%. so now the question is 9M good for a third of the season of a mid rotation starter Actually based on the downward trend of Morrow's health, Morrow will likely pitch 8% of 2015. which means that the Jays will pay morrow $9M for 2 starts. This would make Morrow the highest paid pitcher of all time. Not bad for a mid rotation starter.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Where did you get those splits? http://www.quickmeme.com/img/91/910ed4d697d06ed8f2dad038dfbb0b41b0775813bdc8c31250f8f5f735b13046.jpg Actually based on the downward trend of Morrow's health, Morrow will likely pitch 8% of 2015. which means that the Jays will pay morrow $9M for 2 starts. This would make Morrow the highest paid pitcher of all time. Not bad for a mid rotation starter. Ryan Madson has been paid $9.25M for 0 games pitched since 2012
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Actually based on the downward trend of Morrow's health, Morrow will likely pitch 8% of 2015. which means that the Jays will pay morrow $9M for 2 starts. This would make Morrow the highest paid pitcher of all time. Not bad for a mid rotation starter. Actually by the laws of probability it is more likely Morrow will pitch more innings in 2015 then he has in the past 3 years. And his injuries the past few years have not been elbow or shoulder, but oblique muscle, entrapped radial nerve, and torn tendon sheath in his right hand. Could be as much bad luck as fragile body. The bigger issue for 2015 may be a lack of stamina due to lack of pitching.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 If they did a rebuild, I'd be looking to flip him to some team who might be possibly wow'ed by his tools and small sample performance to give you a meaningful piece in return. I think part of the problem is that he's League'ish. He's got that sinker type fastball with velo and movement, and that's about it. Yes, the curve can work from time to time, but it's such a weird pitch (in comparison to his fastball) that I don't feel like it'll be meaningful for him as a starter. It's just a gimmick, really. And I don't think he'll be able to get that great secondary pitch to offset his fastball, again like League. So he'll be a bit of a pitch to contact one-trick pony. Hell, the other day when he pitched 2 innings, his fastball ticked down from 96-97 in the first inning, to 94-95. What's he going to do with that as a starter? Just be pretty blah is what he'll do. That's if his control doesn't completely fail him. And there's a great likelihood of that. Why would I make a comment just to be "I told you so?" That's a stupid suggestion. I like Hutch, long-term as a starter. I don't like Stroman long-term, as a starter. I don't like Sanchez, long-term, at all. Norris, I'm reserving judgment on (don't have enough info to process, and right now eye test and numbers aren't in synch). Who gives a crap about years from now? It seems like people are changing usernames every few days on here, so who the hell am I even going to say "I told you so" to? I'd like to be wrong about the guys I have a negative outlook on. I don't root for the Rayspists and get pleasure out of the Blue Jays sucking or being mediocre. Why don't you like Stroman? He has 4 or 5 average or better pitches that will keep hitters off balance and make up for his lack of height. Getting lots of groundballs recently with the new 2 seamer as well.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Morrow's option is $10M, the buyout is $1M.... so the option really costs $9M.... which is very cheap for a mid-rotation starter, even an injury prone one I would take Happ at $6M over Morrow at $9M in a heartbeat. Assuming the other 4 spots are locked up by the other 4 current SP. There is no room for Morrow on the roster nor the payroll. Better off allocating the money to a 2B.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 I would take Happ at $6M over Morrow at $9M in a heartbeat. Assuming the other 4 spots are locked up by the other 4 current SP. There is no room for Morrow on the roster nor the payroll. Better off allocating the money to a 2B. Question is do you rather have Happ at 6.7 or Sanchez/Norris at 500k? Might be better off using that money for Happ towards the OF and 2nd base as well.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2015 Author Posted April 28, 2015 This team needs the Sanchize back in the bullpen Not because he can't start but because we can't close without him.
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