Deck Mcguire traded to the A's for Cash

[Spoonovic]

See title.

[Angrioter]

NO wayyyyyyyy

 

Mills over Deck?

[KingKat]

See title.

 

That sounds like a great deal for the Jays. They could certainly use cash more than they could use Deck right now.

[Angrioter]

That sounds like a great deal for the Jays. They could certainly use cash more than they could use Deck right now.

 

Wut?

[KingKat]

Wut?

 

Deck = useless, cash = useful

[pickoff22]

The new Jesse Chavez

[KingKat]

The new Jesse Chavez

 

Jesse Chavez was actually good with the Jays.

[Dr. Dinger]

chris sale

[TDotttt2005]

That sounds like a great deal for the Jays. They could certainly use cash more than they could use Deck right now.

 

Good Job Rogers!

 

http://www.rogers.com/web/ir/financial-reporting/quarterly-reports/

[KingKat]

Sometimes the pessimissism on this board just blows my mind. All he's ever done is suck. All he's ever going to do is suck.

[Angrioter]

Deck = useless, cash = useful

 

Cash means = 250 to 350K, right?

[GNick49]

There goes another first round pick down the drain

[KingKat]

Good Job Rogers!

 

http://www.rogers.com/web/ir/financial-reporting/quarterly-reports/

 

And this impacts Jays payroll how? Oh right, it doesn't.

[TDotttt2005]

Sometimes the pessimissism on this board just blows my mind. All he's ever done is suck. All he's ever going to do is suck.

 

Like the optimism you've brought.

[Dr. Dinger]

Sometimes the pessimissism on this board just blows my mind. All he's ever done is suck. All he's ever going to do is suck.

 

I would have agreed with you right up until Billy Beane acquired him.

[TDotttt2005]

And this impacts Jays payroll how? Oh right, it doesn't.

 

Profit and Loss of the Rogers Blue Jays Baseball Partnership within the context of Rogers media has nothing to do with payroll? Do you think you're on a Yankees board?

[KingKat]

Cash means = 250 to 350K, right?

 

Yeah probably. They'd have to do quite a few of these deals to have the cash to do something at the deadline and that's assuming that accounting allows them to move the cash from one column to the other.

[G-Snarls]

Deck = useless, cash = useful

 

Depends on if they spend it on Leroux or if they spend it on Beeston's cigar collection.

[KingKat]

I would have agreed with you right up until Billy Beane acquired him.

 

Look I like Billy Beeane too but he's not a miracle worker. Sometimes the garbage he obtains is still just garbage. Remember Bobby Kielty?

[GD]

Look I like Billy Beeane too but he's not a miracle worker. Sometimes the garbage he obtains is still just garbage. Remember Bobby Kielty?

 

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/billion-dollar-billy-beane/

[Angrioter]

No were talking maybe 10-15k.

 

15K doesn't cover McGuire travel expenses. 250-350K.

[KingKat]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/billion-dollar-billy-beane/

 

Good read although I think a better approach would take into account the win spectrum. Wins above expectations are worth the most something if they help you get to the playoffs. Wins above expectations that are lower on the spectrum are essentially hollow victories. Billy Beane wouldn't necessarily fair any worse by that measure (he probably doesn't) but a GM could theoretically score really well by consistently fielding a roughly .500 win team on a below average payroll (again, that's not what Beane is doing, it just strikes me as a flaw in the approach).

[KingKat]

/thread

 

Hardly. Not every Beane move is some sort of super ninja GM move. Sometimes, he just throws s*** against the wall like everybody else. Deck=s***.

[KingKat]

True but it wouldn't shock me if they got serviceable innings out of Deck.

 

I would be monumentaly shocked. I think he clears waivers for them and becomes an org guy. I'd be surprised if even Beane himself has a higher expectation.

[Angrioter]

Deck McGuire: "A talent hard to find it, but when you find him, he shits all over place"

[bendera3]

Brett Wallace has to be the ugliest guy in the organization now. He kinda looks like Smeagol from Lord of the Rings.

[KingKat]

I'm just saying prepare to be shocked.

 

If one days this thread gets bumped, I want to do down as the one who called Deck s*** and didn't hedge to look smarter later should the unlikely occur.

[G-Snarls]

I didn't really follow drafts until a few years ago

 

Obviously this was a terrible pick in retrospect, but it really wasn't a particularly strong draft either. Certainly it was no 2009.

 

Anyway, at the time, were most people down on picking him or not necessarily?

Edited July 25, 2014 by G-Snarls

[G-Snarls]

#JustAGuy - ECJF, et al

[KingKat]

I didn't really follow drafts until a few years ago

 

Were people down on picking him at the time?

 

People were very down on him before the pick. There was a lot of anyone but Deck talk. After the pick, it was about 50-50. The FO kind of sold the idea that he had more upside than the mainstream scouting reports said. I knew nothing about prospects back then and had no real reason not to believe it so I bought into it. A lot of people were like, you never know, maybe they know something we don't. I don't really remember who was virulently against the pick but there was definitely a camp that just hated it.