ASG-GDT(3/3): The 2014 All-Star Game! - Hernandez vs. Wainwright - 7:30 PM EST

[theblujay]

We get homefield! Game 7 at RC should be something else!

[theblujay]

Buehrle didn't pitch?

[Orgfiller]

"A guy who can possibly be the next Derek Jeter" - FOX crew referring to Mike Trout.

 

Umm, yeah no, Mike Trout does a lot more, and plays good defense without getting overrated.

[Dylan]

Give someone in the crowd the cars! Why the f*** does trout need one? lol

[bzapple]

Finally Trout wins an MVP.

[fatcowxlive]

We get homefield! Game 7 at RC should be something else!

 

Please! It won't reach that far!

[Orgfiller]

Finally Trout wins an MVP.

 

The first of many to come. Even though it's meaningless it's good because it gives him exposure of how good he actually is so the dinosaurs don't overlook him once more at the end of the year.

[bzapple]

What happened, I missed it?

 

He admitted to giving Jeter a hittable pitch, then awkwardly tried to backtrack when they started questioning him about it.

[theblujay]

"A guy who can possibly be the next Derek Jeter" - FOX crew referring to Mike Trout.

 

Umm, yeah no, Mike Trout does a lot more, and plays good defense without getting overrated.

 

Lol settle down being compared to Jeter is a huge compliment

[havok24]

Lol settle down being compared to Jeter is a huge compliment

 

I don't think you realize how great Mike Trout really is.

[NorthOf49]

Lol settle down being compared to Jeter is a huge compliment

Derek Jeter has never had a season close to any of Trout's three seasons (if you prorate this one). I have no idea how such a comparison would even work. Trout is almost at half of Jeter's career production. This is an insult to Trout.

 

Trout can "possibly be the next Babe Ruth." Or maybe better. He's the best player through his age in history, there may be no career comparables when it's all said and done. Exciting!

[Chappy]

Lol settle down being compared to Jeter is a huge compliment

 

Not if he knows how much better he is than Jeter ever was.

[jays4life19]

Derek Jeter has never had a season close to any of Trout's three seasons (if you prorate this one). I have no idea how such a comparison would even work. Trout is almost at half of Jeter's career production. This is an insult to Trout.

 

Trout can "possibly be the next Babe Ruth." Or maybe better. He's the best player through his age in history, there may be no career comparables when it's all said and done. Exciting!

 

 

Damm. I just looked at Babe Ruth's fangraphs page. His 1923 season is unbelievable. 231 wRC+ and was worth 15 fWAR

 

9 seasons he had more then 10+ fWAR.

[NorthOf49]

Damm. I just looked at Babe Ruth's fangraphs page. His 1923 season is unbelievable. 231 wRC+ and was worth 15 fWAR

 

9 seasons he had more then 10+ fWAR.

In 1927 he posted a 212 wRC+ and Lou Gehrig posted a 209 hitting behind him, the two totaling 25.5 WAR. They weren't called Murderers' Row for no reason

[baseballsss]

In 1927 he posted a 212 wRC+ and Lou Gehrig posted a 209 hitting behind him, the two totaling 25.5 WAR. They weren't called Murderers' Row for no reason

 

now do it for each player on the 1927 yankees

[theblujay]

There's more to a career than their WAR. I'm 100% positive that if you asked Trout if he thought it was a huge compliment to be compared to Jeter that he would honestly say yes. Any player would.

[jb22]

Derek Jeter has never had a season close to any of Trout's three seasons (if you prorate this one). I have no idea how such a comparison would even work. Trout is almost at half of Jeter's career production. This is an insult to Trout.

 

Trout can "possibly be the next Babe Ruth." Or maybe better. He's the best player through his age in history, there may be no career comparables when it's all said and done. Exciting!

 

Uh Bonds?

[labadee]

Buehrle didn't pitch?

 

no respect!

[IBTrini]

There's more to a career than their WAR. I'm 100% positive that if you asked Trout if he thought it was a huge compliment to be compared to Jeter that he would honestly say yes. Any player would.

Quite a few people seem to have missed this point so it is refreshing to see it brought up.

 

Some may ridicule you based on stats only but they are missing the fact that the compliment is based on integrity as well. I am not a Yankees fan but looking objectively at what Jeter has accomplished over his career, his work ethics, his demeanor, being able to stay away from PEDs, not allowing his fame to get the better of his ego, being able to stay away from public controversy etc. is really huge in this day and age. From my perspective, he is the embodiment of what baseball is all about. Some will disagree with my point of view but so be it cuz I know we don't all see things in the same hues and tones.

[HERPDERP]

I hope Mike Trout maintains his conditioning. It would suck to see such a dynamic player fall short of God status like Griffey.

[sh3156]

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Why didn't buehrle pitch

[jays_fever]

Quite a few people seem to have missed this point so it is refreshing to see it brought up.

 

Some may ridicule you based on stats only but they are missing the fact that the compliment is based on integrity as well. I am not a Yankees fan but looking objectively at what Jeter has accomplished over his career, his work ethics, his demeanor, being able to stay away from PEDs, not allowing his fame to get the better of his ego, being able to stay away from public controversy etc. is really huge in this day and age. From my perspective, he is the embodiment of what baseball is all about. Some will disagree with my point of view but so be it cuz I know we don't all see things in the same hues and tones.

 

If he never played on the Yankees and won all those championships, the media and everyone connected with baseball would not glorify him as the GOD they make him out to be. Is he a hall of famer? Of course.

 

Is he a Ken Griffey/A Rod,/Mike Trout/Willie Mays generational talent? No and that's what a lot of people are sick of.

[GD]

Quite a few people seem to have missed this point so it is refreshing to see it brought up.

 

Some may ridicule you based on stats only but they are missing the fact that the compliment is based on integrity as well. I am not a Yankees fan but looking objectively at what Jeter has accomplished over his career, his work ethics, his demeanor, being able to stay away from PEDs, not allowing his fame to get the better of his ego, being able to stay away from public controversy etc. is really huge in this day and age. From my perspective, he is the embodiment of what baseball is all about. Some will disagree with my point of view but so be it cuz I know we don't all see things in the same hues and tones.

 

I agree that he's a fantastic player and that he deserves a ton of praise. I just think that it goes overboard based on some non-concrete reasons:

 

-Championships are not a measure of player quality.

-I don't like attributing leadership as a quality. Sure, it's not quantifiable, but some guys just don't mesh with others, and after a while... say McCann comes in this year and doesn't get along with Jeter. No drama, just doesn't like the guy's personality. Are you really gonna say you don't think someone with Jeter's perfect perception isn't a leader? My point is that there's no real 100% way of knowing what the guy was like although I feel like this paragraph did a pretty poor job of explaining that lol.

-We don't know if Jeter did PEDs. I'm not saying he did lol this isn't even about Jeter, I'd just like to make a very broad general point: we don't really know who didn't do PEDs. In that age, it was probably a matter of who hid it best. I honestly don't care a ton about PEDs anyway.

 

So I feel like it's a little overboard. But a lot of that is probably because he played on the Yanks. He's still obviously a tremendous player who deserves the utmost respect.

[IBTrini]

If he never played on the Yankees and won all those championships, the media and everyone connected with baseball would not glorify him as the GOD they make him out to be. Is he a hall of famer? Of course.

 

Is he a Ken Griffey/A Rod,/Mike Trout/Willie Mays generational talent? No and that's what a lot of people are sick of.

As I said before, others will disagree with me but that's al right.

 

A-Rod makes me sick to my stomach. He has displayed talent but in my mind he does not embody what baseball is all about. He found a way to bring shame to the integrity of baseball but that does not seem to faze you.

 

Trout has the potential to be someone exceptional but he has not done his time. If he dies tomorrow will he get into the HOF? Will he be remembered as much for his longlevity or be was popular?

 

I noticed you were quick to name A-Rod but conveniently left Barry Bonds out of your list. Any reason for this oversight? Could it be cuz he wasn't a Yankee and would have been honoured throughout the baseball world for his exceptional talent however he stained his image and brought disrepute to the game.

 

With respect to talent those two cannot be compared yet when it comes down to who I feel represents purity (integrity/honesty/talent) of baseball I will choose Jeter and I know others will disagree with my sentiments so we will leave it at that.

[jays4life19]

Fun fact: Jose Bautista 2011 season was better then any season Derek Jeter ever had in his career.

[IBTrini]

I agree that he's a fantastic player and that he deserves a ton of praise. I just think that it goes overboard based on some non-concrete reasons:

 

So I feel like it's a little overboard. But a lot of that is probably because he played on the Yanks. He's still obviously a tremendous player who deserves the utmost respect.

I felt it was a bit too much but if he was a Jay I may have changed my tune and felt it wasn't overboard - just a matter of perspective. From my point of view, I liked his achievement, his longevity, his work ethics, his on and off field demeanour.

 

With respect to insinuating there is no way to be 100% certain he didn't take PEDs is silly. Paint someone in a bad light because you don't have evidence to support a claim? Really???

 

I can remember when fans from other team made some comments that Bautista had to be taking PEDs because of his new found power a lot of Jays fans got upset- So much for having a balanced view, eh?