Give Drabek a chance?

[BigCecil]

McGuire is a pure shitballer who spent four goddamn years at AA. Drabek has the stuff to have a chance to contribute to a major league bullpen.

 

Drabek >>>>>>> McGuire

 

tomato tomoatoe potato potatoe...both amount to shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

Neither provides what this team will need for SP as the season wears on....

[Statman]

Drabek has the quality/movement of what Sergio Santos has on his pitches, the control of Brandon Morrow and mindset of Ricky Romero.

[Olerud363]

Quiet evening on here - thought I'd be provocative

 

Is it his turn to get a shot? Happ is bad. Dickey is grumbling with groin issue. Hutch is having problems.

 

Drabek has been at least decent in AAA Buffalo all year and his last 5 weeks have been frankly good. Walking less than 3/9 all season, only 2 starts (I think) where he's walked more than 2.

 

Worth a shot for a few weeks??

 

Not sure why the peanut Gallery is giving you a hard time. Give him a shot for a few weeks if there is an injury or someone really implodes. The peanut gallery must be on auto-pilot this morning.

 

"Drabek you are our only hope. Pitch like your Dad did in the early 90s and lead us to the pennant." unreasonable. peanut gallery should go to your house and shame you.

 

"Drabek. We have no fifth starter. Please come to Toronto and pitch just a little better then you did 2 years ago. You might actually help us" reasonable. peanut gallery should say "doubt he'll help but why not if nothing better is on the radar."

[G-Snarls]

Not sure why the peanut Gallery is giving you a hard time. Give him a shot for a few weeks if there is an injury or someone really implodes. The peanut gallery must be on auto-pilot this morning.

 

"Drabek you are our only hope. Pitch like your Dad did in the early 90s and lead us to the pennant." unreasonable. peanut gallery should go to your house and shame you.

 

"Drabek. We have no fifth starter. Please come to Toronto and pitch just a little better then you did 2 years ago. You might actually help us" reasonable. peanut gallery should say "doubt he'll help but why not if nothing better is on the radar."

 

It's OK, I knew they would

 

He really was that bad in 2012 so the fear is deserved that he might be terrible again.

 

But if we really do need an extra starter until the all start break (and I'm feeling like we do with all the problems) then he's who I would give a shot right now. That's all I'm saying. If we need a starter 10 days fom now I'd rather try Drabek than call Hendriks back up.

Edited June 22, 2014 by G-Snarls

[G-Snarls]

All I am saying is... Give Drabek a chance ...

 

All I am saying is... Give Drabek a chance ...

 

All together now!

 

All we are saying is... Give Drabek a chance ...

 

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[Olerud363]

It's OK, I knew they would

 

He really was that bad in 2012 so the dear is deserved that he might be terrible again.

 

But if we really do need an extra starter until the all start break (and I'm feeling like we do with all the problems) then he's who I would give a shot right now. That's all I'm saying. If we need a starter 10 days fom now I'd rather try Drabek than

 

He was really bad in 2011... bad in 2012. 4.67 47-47 k-bb.

 

I guess the hope would be that he improves a bit on 2012. If the stuff is there, there is no reason not to give him a shot. Pitchers are funny he might surprise us.

 

I haven't heard a scouting report. If he's throwing 85 or something then he will get killed here.

[Nox]

Drabek, McGuire...

 

Those are 2 particularly ugly options.

[G-Snarls]

Drabek, McGuire...

 

Those are 2 particularly ugly options.

 

Then maybe we should trade for Hamel, Price or Shark and keep those guys lower on the depth chart...

[Olerud363]

Drabek, McGuire...

 

Those are 2 particularly ugly options.

 

As was Jesse Chavez at one point. And Scott Kazmir went Romero and came back.

 

People want certainty. If you say "lets sift through the s*** looking through for a diamond" they don't really know what the f*** you are talking about. They yell at you and laugh at you and say "good luck, your just going to get s*** all over the place and make a huge mess of everything."

 

And they are right. You have to be careful when looking through s***. But if you do it carefully and have some luck it can work. Not saying it is easy. I am sure I'd make a mess if I tried. But you get the best superscouts money can buy, and some analytical guys, and together they can sort through the s***.... maybe...

[Nox]

Then maybe we should trade for Hamel, Price or Shark and keep those guys lower on the depth chart...

 

Or just acquire some non-replacement level depth before the season starts. Woops, too late.

[G-Snarls]

Well that's it too. We aren't watching these guys in AAA so all we have to go by is the performance numbers which are important but don't tell the whole story. AA has to trust the coaching staff down there to let him know who seems to have the stuff to make the jump up to the majors. Sometimes he goes to watch himself.

[Nox]

Then maybe we should trade for Hamel, Price or Shark and keep those guys lower on the depth chart...

 

Or just acquire some non-replacement level depth before the season starts. Woops, too late.

[Nox]

But you get the best superscouts money can buy, and some analytical guys, and together they can sort through the s***.... maybe...

 

What about just a lot of guys who went "scout school" (a 1 week endeavor) and have never actually shown to be good at what they do?

[ElNik2013]

Barring injury, rotation is set for the next few weeks so this all moot. Kratz will get Happ back on track, I'm sure Kratz just had a bad day yesterday. On a normal Kratz day, he would've framed the s*** out of Happ's pitches and led him to a 7IP, 5-hit, no-walk, 7K start.

 

Happ is just too big and strong not to succeed. He was just a little bit off his game yesterday.

[G-Snarls]

[G-Snarls]

I didn't know that he had been "officially" moved to the bullpen

 

OTOH...

[G-Snarls]

[The Cats Ass]

I'd give Drabek a chance up here. What could it hurt. It's not like he could do that much worse then Happ.

[KingKat]

I'd give Drabek a chance up here. What could it hurt. It's not like he could do that much worse then Happ.

 

Oh he most certainly could but I agree with the sentiment. A healthy Nolin would be 100x more interesting than Drabek but desperate times...

[G-Snarls]

I'd give Drabek a chance up here. What could it hurt. It's not like he could do that much worse then Happ.

 

1. Happ doesn't take well to being dicked around - too bad, do what's best for the team. If he stinks it up again he should be moved to the pen as swing man

 

2. Although the rotation is "full" right now, the schedule is relentless with 16 consecutive game days from now till the all star break. Given Hutch and Dickey being iffy recently with possible stamina + groin issues, giving someone a couple of spot starts might make sense.

 

If I need such spot starts over the next 2.5 weeks I'd pick Drabek, not Hendriks or Rogers (bad) or Nolin (injured)

[wardhenke1]

f*** it, let's give Romero a chance. If nothing else it will be entertaining watching him walk the first 9 batters.....

 

"Ohhhh, that was so close to being called a strike." Tabler.

 

"Yep. Hard to get the benefit of a close call when you've thrown 15 straight balls...." Martinez.

[The Cats Ass]

What's wrong with Nolin? I've been forgetting about him. I wouldn't mind seeing him up here sometime this year too.

[Governator]

It's all good guys, Morrow will be back soon to save the day.

[G-Snarls]

It's all good guys, Morrow will be back soon to save the day.

 

Ban

[G-Snarls]

What's wrong with Nolin? I've been forgetting about him. I wouldn't mind seeing him up here sometime this year too.

 

I looked it up. He missed 3.5 weeks in May. Started pitching again June 6. Has appeared in 3 games since, never going more than 3 innings and got rocked in his second appearance.

[The Cats Ass]

I looked it up. He missed 3.5 weeks in May. Started pitching again June 6. Has appeared in 3 games since, never going more than 3 innings and got rocked in his second appearance.

 

Has he had TJ surgery yet? May as well send him for it.

[G-Snarls]

Fact: Clayton Kershaw is younger than Kyle Drabek

[Governator]

Fact: Clayton Kershaw is younger than Kyle Drabek

 

 

meh... and Trout's younger than Gose.

[kgm1]

Fact: Clayton Kershaw is younger than Kyle Drabek

 

I can't believe you did a post like this then mentioned Kershaw and Drabek in the same post . lol your right this board needed some humor so thanks for giving us that.

 

To the people who missed the sarcasm? Drabek and McGuire if we are really lucky will be moved to the pen and MAYBE we can still eke out some value.

Edited June 23, 2014 by kgm1

[G-Snarls]

I can't believe you did a post like this then mentioned Kershaw and Drabek in the same post . lol your right this board needed some humor so thanks for giving us that.

 

To the people who missed the sarcasm? Drabek and McGuire if we are really lucky will be moved to the pen and MAYBE we can still eek some value.

 

I saw it on a tweet last night

 

Yeah I'm feeling silly this morning.