The DFA Esmil Rogers thread

[Jonzo]

Please and thank you. Trash is trash.

[Deadpool]

But what will we do without 3 long relievers?

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Sure why not

[Jonzo]

This could go down as one of the worst trades the fat Greek has ever made.

[theblujay]

This could go down as one of the worst trades the fat Greek has ever made.

 

But there are so many to chose from!

[over500]

option is all it matters in Toronto.

[Deadpool]

This could go down as one of the worst trades the fat Greek has ever made.

 

Nobody but Yan Gomes' mom thought he'd be as good as he has been this season...

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Gomes on pace for another 4ish WAR

Aviles isn't that great but he's better than what we currently have at 2B

[jaysblue]

Get rid of him ASAP. How can you bring him in a 6-1 game at Fenway! Just crazy!

[Jonzo]

When you think about it, the way Souvlaki King handled the Catcher position for this franchise is an absolute abomination.

[jaysblue]

When you think about it, the way Souvlaki King handled the Catcher position for this franchise is an absolute abomination.

 

2010: John Buck/Jose Molina

2011: JPA/Jose Molina

2012: JPA/Jeff Mathis

2013: JPA/Josh Thole

2014: Navarro/Thole/Kratz

 

All catching tandems during the big fat Greek's tenure.

[Angrioter]

Liam Hendricks in, Rogers out

 

in 3...2....1

[Bunchedundies]

Long overdue.

[AngryBird]

2010: John Buck/Jose Molina

2011: JPA/Jose Molina

2012: JPA/Jeff Mathis

2013: JPA/Josh Thole

2014: Navarro/Thole/Kratz

 

All catching tandems during the big fat Greek's tenure.

 

Lol, I don't think anyone could name a worse five year stretch then that on right there.

[Orgfiller]

This could go down as one of the worst trades the fat Greek has ever made.

 

Wat? Did d'Arnaud and Syndergaard have career ending surgeries to justify that? Disco, Handsome Jake, Alvarez, Escobar, others?

 

Edit: read that as THE worst trade. Still, at the time it was Aviles + filler for a reliever.

[HERPDERP]

DFA Rogers and watch him turn into the next Jesse Chavez.

[fireballW]

Lol, I don't think anyone could name a worse five year stretch then that on right there.

 

People here love Molina when he's on the Rays.

 

I don't see the problem with our catchers in the Buck/Molina year, or this year. The only real problem with the catching was Arencibia. It was a BIG problem obviously though.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Meh, pick your poo I guess. I'd rather him over Redmond or Happ though.

 

I think Rogers could be pretty good. For some reason he just leaves too many pitches over the plate. There were times last year when he looked like he could be a good back rotation starter with nice sink and some strikeout ability... not so much lately.

[over500]

People here love Molina when he's on the Rays.

 

I don't see the problem with our catchers in the Buck/Molina year, or this year. The only real problem with the catching was Arencibia. It was a BIG problem obviously though.

 

Molina was alright when he wasn't DHing.

[vic city]

Who's worse...Rogers or Romero?

[jays4life19]

Who's worse...Rogers or Romero?

 

Romero. It's not even close.

[KingKat]

Meh, pick your poo I guess. I'd rather him over Redmond or Happ though.

 

What did Redmond ever do to you?

[vic city]

Meh, pick your poo I guess. I'd rather him over Redmond or Happ though.

 

ummmm...nooo annnd...ummmmm....nooooooooooooo....No? No.

[shortstop]

Get rid of him ASAP. How can you bring him in a 6-1 game at Fenway! Just crazy!

 

you know he's not reliable at all when most may agree we feel the red flag/alarm bells go off when Gibby brings in Rogers in a 6-1 in any stadium...

[jaysblue]

Lol, I don't think anyone could name a worse five year stretch then that on right there.

 

Buck and Molina were a pretty solid combo in 2010. Buck provided a 2.7 WAR that season.

[jaysblue]

I think Rogers could be pretty good. For some reason he just leaves too many pitches over the plate. There were times last year when he looked like he could be a good back rotation starter with nice sink and some strikeout ability... not so much lately.

 

He can be an effective long reliever. Look at what he did in 2012 - especially with Cleveland. I'd definitely prefer Rogers over Redmond. As for a starter, I don't think he'd pass a good No. 5 starter - he can make a couple spot starts here and there or look good for a stretch of 5-6 starts; however he can't last a full season in a rotation. Look at last season how he struggled when he was used in the rotation on a regular basis. It's the same with Carlos V - great long reliever/spot starter who can fill in for a SP if they are on the DL for about 3-4 weeks, but isn't good enough to be a full time starting pitcher.

[BlueJaysGirl]

Buck and Molina were a pretty solid combo in 2010. Buck provided a 2.7 WAR that season.

 

I liked that combo, too.

 

We're not horrible at catcher this year I don't think. We could have easily stuck with JPA for 2014 and been terrible.

 

What do you think the combination of Kratz/Navarro/Thole give us for WAR at season's end?

[HERPDERP]

I was sure he was going to get DFA'd. But really now, this guy is having a longer run on the club than Brian Tallet had in his last season with us..

[AngryBird]

Can't believe you can make $1.85 million to be terrible at your job. This guy has it made!

[wilko]

DFA this piece of s***.