dineke Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Delgado was much better than Bautista Nope
closetjaysfan Verified Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 This question needs to be refined a bit: Where does he rank among hitters that have played for the blue jays? or where does he rank among hitters that have contributed as a blue jay?
closetjaysfan Verified Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Jeff Kent 56.1 WAR Really Jeff Kent? If you are going to talk about lifetime stats and not just as a Jay I would think there are much bigger names: Frank Thomas, Paul Molitor, Dave Winfield, Jose Cansaco, Rickey Henderson smash Jeff Kent all to f***... and im probably missing someone.
TilsonBritoFan Verified Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 If were going with the latter, I'd say Frank Thomas Rickey. Don't forget about him, he's right there too
Followthelight Verified Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Delgado was much better than Bautista ?? Much better? Don't even think he was better period.
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 1-Delgado 2-Bautista 3-McGriff 4-Olerud 5-Alomar 6-Bell 7-Edwin 8-Barfield 9-Molitor 10-Wells Jose is moving up to #1 steadily. We have a Rule 5, and rejects from CINN and PITT on this list. Baseball is a game of suprises. Shawn Green deserves some consideration as a home grown but a lot of his best yrs were LAD. Fernandez always under rated offensively.
Ehjays Verified Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 1-Delgado 2-Bautista 3-McGriff 4-Olerud 5-Alomar 6-Bell 7-Edwin 8-Barfield 9-Molitor 10-Wells Okay so lets get one thing straight......the question is hitter. The original question should not have mentioned level of excellance because then you are looking at the whole player. If you are looking at the player as a whole.....Robbie Alomar is not 5th. And if it IS only hitting I'd put the HOFer Molitor ahead of McGriff c'mon guys
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Okay so lets get one thing straight......the question is hitter. The original question should not have mentioned level of excellance because then you are looking at the whole player. If you are looking at the player as a whole.....Robbie Alomar is not 5th. And if it IS only hitting I'd put the HOFer Molitor ahead of McGriff c'mon guys McGriff was a better hitter than Molitor during their respective Jays' careers.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Bautista gets no appreciation on this board
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Bautista is the best position player and hitter in Blue Jays history.
TilsonBritoFan Verified Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Bautista is the best position player and hitter in Blue Jays history. Best hitter. Alomar best position player
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Best hitter. Alomar best position player It really comes down to whether or not you think the defensive metrics are in the vicinity of his actual performance. I didn't see him play, so I don't really have an opinion either way.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Alomar is an easy answer because he's in the HoF, but people seem to forget he only played 5 years here.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Alomar is an easy answer because he's in the HoF, but people seem to forget he only played 5 years here. Wow, Bautista has been here for 7 years. I didn't realize it had been that long. I used to think he was a huge douche but I enjoy how he gets the Orioles and their fans' panties all in a bunch. I wouldn't mind him being our Ortiz but get him out of RF ffs.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 I'm curious to see who votes Bautista, who votes Delgado....and how old the posters are. The older generation I'm thinking will skew to Molitor, Alomar, Winfield, the younger ones will be on the Bautista bandwagon, and the ones in between will probably favour Delgado.
Followthelight Verified Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Bautista is the best position player and hitter in Blue Jays history. Hmm hitter sure, but defense is a thing, Alomar would have a strong claim.
Followthelight Verified Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 It really comes down to whether or not you think the defensive metrics are in the vicinity of his actual performance. I didn't see him play, so I don't really have an opinion either way. Think maybe better then goins defensively, and all-star bat.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Hmm hitter sure, but defense is a thing, Alomar would have a strong claim. and baserunning people also seem to forget Alomar was an elite basestealer and runner
Followthelight Verified Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 and baserunning people also seem to forget Alomar was an elite basestealer and runner Yes you are right, I forgot that too, Alomar could steal bases with regularity.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Really Jeff Kent? If you are going to talk about lifetime stats and not just as a Jay I would think there are much bigger names: Frank Thomas, Paul Molitor, Dave Winfield, Jose Cansaco, Rickey Henderson smash Jeff Kent all to f***... and im probably missing someone. i didnt say i rank him no. 1, just throwing the name out there if you look further up the thread you will see i named frank thomas no. 1 hitter to don blue and white. if the question is best hitter while with the jays, bautista gets my vote followed closely by delgado
Followthelight Verified Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Bautista gets no appreciation on this board HUH? Most here say he is the best hitter for the Jays ever and one of the all-time greats. What are you talking about?
TilsonBritoFan Verified Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Right now: 1. Delgado 2. Bats When the dust settles, probably Bats. If there was one at bat to be taken, I want Carlos in his prime up there. He was a beast and some of you are forgetting that.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Right now: 1. Delgado 2. Bats When the dust settles, probably Bats. If there was one at bat to be taken, I want Carlos in his prime up there. He was a beast and some of you are forgetting that. Delgado was a monster.
TilsonBritoFan Verified Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Delgado was a monster. His 4th home run of that 4 home run day was almost off the scoreboard. Unreal.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 His 4th home run of that 4 home run day was almost off the scoreboard. Unreal. certainly a candidate for most powerful hitter, along with best. others for the most powerful title being barfield, EE, mcgriff, ?
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 certainly a candidate for most powerful hitter, along with best. others for the most powerful title being barfield, EE, mcgriff, ? Canseco
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Canseco yeah but he wasn't here very long.... so didnt list him
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 yeah but he wasn't here very long.... so didnt list him Well that's another thing. What's the criteria? Robbie was here 5 years...Molitor 2 or 3 I believe.
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