Maicer Izturis done for year?

[G-Snarls]

MCL or LCL tear

 

Probably needs surgery

 

Per FAN590

[jays_fever]

Good. Maybe he can go away quietly now

[G-Snarls]

[Muck Bartinez]

Yikes. Good thing we have lots of MIF depth in Reyes..... I mean Goi... I mean Kawa.... I mean Dia....... f***.

[Terminator]

That's not good. I was hoping he could bounce back and be a 1 WAR player which would be a lot better than the other bums we have.

[Slot Machine]

Well, at least we have Kawasaki...

[G-Snarls]

Well... this doesn't really matter at all.

 

Nope. We can replace him with ANOTHER replacement level MIF. Conveniently, the organization is STACKED with those.

[Abomination]

That's not good. I was hoping he could bounce back and be a 1 WAR player which would be a lot better than the other bums we have.

 

Yeah, or get hot enough to be shipped somewhere else. I mean, there ARE teams that could have used him.

[Slot Machine]

That's not good. I was hoping he could bounce back and be a 1 WAR player which would be a lot better than the other bums we have.

 

Yeah, his defence did seem to be better this year.

[G-Snarls]

To be fair, he may have been our best option to back up Lawrie. and that's a problem right there...

[Terminator]

Well... this doesn't really matter at all.

 

Well...maybe it doesn't matter but I think he's the best of our bad bunch though. The projections think he's about 0.2-0.4 WAR better than Diaz.

[Anemic0ffense]

Ehh... He was already showing signs of "regressing to the mean"... Changes nothing really... I like Kawasaki better anyway.

[z3r0s]

meh

[G-Snarls]

I sure feel bad for him though

 

Pretty unlikely he bounces back from this.

[Muck Bartinez]

3 scenarios I can see:

 

1. Two of Diaz/Kawasaki/Goins at 2B/SS. Offense is terrible, defense very good. Obviously what the Jays will do.

 

Other options:

 

2. One of Diaz/Kawasaki/Goins at SS, Lawrie at 2B, Jose at 3B, Sierra in RF. Defense ok, offense ok.

3. One of Diaz/Kawasaki/Goins at SS, Lawrie at 2B, Edwin at 3B, Lind at 1B. Offense good, especially vs RHP. Defense 2013-Tigers bad.

 

Don't really know if either of these 2 options are better than #1, but if we had a passable 4th OF, I'd be inclined to try option 2.

[Spoonovic]

Just sign Drew already.

[flafson]

Goins and the bunch are here to stay, no doubt about it. Even when Reyes comes back I'm not sure AA will drop one of them.

Besides, now that AA sees the value of limited offense but winning games on pitching/defense alone, he's not going to risk it.

[flafson]

Just sign Drew already.

 

LMAO.

Unless you are willing to pay Drew from your own pocket (the whole amount) it ain't happening.

[Muck Bartinez]

IMO Sierra in RF is a good bet to provide like -1 WAR. The team needs to make a trade, and barring that I think you just bite the bullet with a Kawasaki/Diaz 2B platoon and hope for a 1 WAR season. The real fun starts if Lawrie goes down.

 

That's why if we had a Gentry/Ruggiano/Baker kind of guy, we could get some value from the 4th OF spot. Slide Bautista to 3B, Lawrie to 2B, and platoon short with Diaz/Kawasaki. Defense suffers, but not nearly as bad as the offense does with 2 of these plugs in there.

[wilko]

WTF?

 

He did this walking up the dugout stairs lmfao

 

http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/nicolas-cage-laughing.gif

[Terminator]

That's why if we had a Gentry/Ruggiano/Baker kind of guy, we could get some value from the 4th OF spot. Slide Bautista to 3B, Lawrie to 2B, and platoon short with Diaz/Kawasaki. Defense suffers, but not nearly as bad as the offense does with 2 of these plugs in there.

 

You sure about that?

[Muck Bartinez]

You sure about that?

 

When we can't shield both of Goins + Kawasaki from LHP, it's going to be trouble. Goins needs to be shielded from anyone who isn't me, and Kawasaki had a 27 wRC+ against lefties last year.

[o2cui2i]

 

dude fell up the stairs in the dugout going to get his batting gloves. this is going to be on the most bizarre career ending injuries list.

[bendera3]

Last year we had frequent injuries, this year we will just have a few massive ones. yaaaaaaay

[G-Snarls]

Last year we had frequent injuries, this year we will just have a few massive ones. yaaaaaaay

 

Last year the big ones happened to impact players like Reyes, Johnson, Bautista, Morrow, Lawrie and Santos

 

This year they're happening to throwaway guys like Happ and Izturis (OK and Janssen but seems minor)

[bzapple]

Well, this signing didn't work out well.

[Terminator]

I don't really get how this is "funny" to everyone. You all are twisted.

 

And it hurts a little bit. The guy was the best of our crap infielders for one. And second, if we lose any more infielders then what? Replacement level players are pretty plentiful but not every org has a bunch at every position.

[o2cui2i]

Insurance money should cover the $3 mill, essentially freeing up $3 million in excess for our tightwad owners.

 

Will Rogers pocket the savings or spend it on help?

 

Probably spend it on hockey somehow...

 

teams dont insure replacement level players. Jays just eat this cost.

[Terminator]

http://i.imgur.com/qQsLfRS.png

http://i.imgur.com/gWCgLhS.png

 

Oh I don't disagree. He was awful last year. But I'm going by the projections for this year, which factor last year's disaster. Maicer is about .2-.4 WAR higher than Diaz. Even more than Goins.

 

As for my comment about not having enough replacement level players, that doesn't really hold water. We have Getz and Tolleson in AAA, they aren't any worse than Diaz and Goins.

[Abomination]

Players always seem to find creative ways to get injured - Dugout steps, spiders, recliners, blenders, etc.

 

Feel bad for Izzy and hope he recovers fully. Hate seeing any player get hurt. Traded or DFA'd is another matter of course.