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I think the truth will come out now . If AA does not get Santana then he just has no money .

 

Personally I don't like Santana in these small AL east Ball Parks but he is better than Happ .

 

 

 

He could get Santana and promise his bosses that he'll move salary to compensate, i.e. Happ + Santos/Janssen/Cecil.

 

 

I don't think many like Santana, but on a 1-year deal, the benefits outweigh the risks. I also see a long term benefit in that it would allow Stroman, Nolin and possibly Hutchison more development time at AAA.

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Right, but 14m, plus a loss of a 2nd rounder, for a possible 2 more wins, so we go from likely 78 to maybe 80 wins and still not make the playoffs? He's been a bit inconsistent and gives up a lot of hrs. It probably makes more sense to get a better slot for a draft pick then for a meaningless extra win or so, because at the end of the year, it still is a non playoff team even with him.

 

Truth is, we need more pitchers who can eat innings, only 2/5 of our rotation can give us that right now.

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If the M's outbid Toronto, hard to really blame AA. Even on a 1 year deal there's a price where it starts to not make sense.

 

If you go much higher than 14M, then you start paying for more production than you're likely to get.

 

He's probably a 2 win pitcher. That's even money at 15M. Factoring in the draft pick, and the market price for one year of Ervin is probably closer to $10M or $8M.

 

If Jack Z wants to drop 14M+ a draft pick for a league average starter, f*** it. Let him.

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1st option to replace Happ at #5 although if they keep Rogers/Redmond as the long reliever/6th starter they may give one of them a shot, or even McGowan. I'm certainly all for giving Hutchison a month or more at AAA.

 

my question is - why hutch as 1st call up over all the others - on what basis?

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Not going to get my hopes up. Pretty clear ownership has kept AA's hands tied.

 

Ervin is no saviour either.

 

I don't think anyone says he's a saviour. But on our staff, he might be the best pitcher.

 

We have a horrible staff.

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If you assume that previous tweet said only AL and another said no Orioles, then it must be us. What are the chances?

30% chance we get him?

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I don't think anyone says he's a saviour. But on our staff, he might be the best pitcher.

 

We have a horrible staff.

 

You're right, they all suck

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my question is - why hutch as 1st call up over all the others - on what basis?

 

 

 

Assuming he continues to outperform them in ST although there's a decent chance he makes the team. My preference is for him to spend more time at AAA.

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@nickcafardo: Sources told me Phillies kicking tires. They deny it but they deny everything. Key word: bargain
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Not sure how credible:

 

Max Wildstein ‏@MaxWildsteinMLB 3m

Source: P Ervin Santana sweepstakes are down to three teams: #Orioles, #BlueJays and #Rockies, with BAL/TOR as favorites

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Not sure how credible:

 

Max Wildstein ‏@MaxWildsteinMLB 3m

Source: P Ervin Santana sweepstakes are down to three teams: #Orioles, #BlueJays and #Rockies, with BAL/TOR as favorites

Not at all, don't give these types of people attention. He's just refurbishing other reports.

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Assuming he continues to outperform them in ST although there's a decent chance he makes the team. My preference is for him to spend more time at AAA.

 

Agree then - way too early to be making conclusions - Drabek could outperform Hutch the rest of ST, who knows

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Not at all, don't give these types of people attention. He's just refurbishing other reports.

 

Cafardo's legit, though.

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Not sure how credible:

 

Max Wildstein ‏@MaxWildsteinMLB 3m

Source: P Ervin Santana sweepstakes are down to three teams: #Orioles, #BlueJays and #Rockies, with BAL/TOR as favorites

 

Well, it's believable but who knows

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Rosenthal credibility tweet!

 

 

For tapatalk:

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 2m

Sources: #BlueJays pursuing E. Santana on one-year deal for around QO - one year, $14M. @dsoldevila reported he has such deal with AL club.

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