Phillies sign Burnett

[G-Snarls]

[Angrioter]

ToddZolecki now

Source said the Phillies have agreed to a one-year deal with A.J. Burnett.

[G-Snarls]

Glad it's not Baltimore

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Three threads within 1 minutes

 

Me and BTS beat Ang by 1 minute LOL

[G-Snarls]

Damn you Gsnarls.

 

To Heck?

[z3r0s]

makes sense with the Hamels injury (not that the Phillies will be good, but, Amaro

[G-Snarls]

It's OK, we both punked angrioter. We rule.

[Angrioter]

Three threads within 1 minutes

 

Me and BTS beat Ang by 1 minute LOL

 

My title is better

[G-Snarls]

Merged all three into BTS's

 

Just cause I'm nice like that

[Brenner]

And another domino falls...

[Sammy225]

Kind of a slap in the face to the Pirates. However I kind of figured it would be one or another.

[G-Snarls]

This is the signing I really wanted damn.

 

Yeah 1 year 16M or whatever it turns out to be would have been nice for us. But Burnett presumably chooses Philadelphia over us for home and NL reasons.

[NorthOf49]

I must say, this makes a ton of sense.

[G-Snarls]

So it's pretty much Jimenez or bust at this point, assuming Drew is off limits. What a terrible offseason.

 

This off season:

 

[Smokey]

Not a big deal, the Blue Jays remain tentatively engaged in dialogue with the remaining options and if things don't pan out, there's always hope for improvements internally from guys like Ricky Romero and such. Not to mention the pressure of winning being lifted off this year... that should be good for at least 3 wins.

[G-Snarls]

So, if AA signs Ervin Santana for something like 3/39, will the Toronto media praise his brilliant strategy of waiting out the market to get his guy?

 

I seriously hope not. The sadest part though is that's who AA probably coveted the most out of the 3 for some reason anyway.

[Smokey]

So, if AA signs Ervin Santana for something like 3/39, will the Toronto media praise his brilliant strategy of waiting out the market to get his guy?

 

Well considering the Toronto media consist of guys like this, I don't see why not.

 

[G-Snarls]

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 1m

Burnett with #Phillies - one year, $16M. Other details to come.

[jays_fever]

So, if AA signs Ervin Santana for something like 3/39, will the Toronto media praise his brilliant strategy of waiting out the market to get his guy?

 

You wouldnt take Santana for that much? Not that I would praise him but id like the signing nonetheless

[Angrioter]

ChrisCotillo

1-year, $16MM deal for Burnett according to @Ken_Rosenthal. #Phillies

[eastcoastjaysfan]

So it's pretty much Jimenez or bust at this point, assuming Drew is off limits. What a terrible offseason.

 

Nothing short of a massive failure from AA. No excuses.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

I probably wouldn't no.

 

You wouldn't sign Santana to a 3 year deal?

 

It's not a 5-6 year deal we're talking about here...

[Dylan]

I suggested Phillies from the beginning. Glad he didn't go to the O's.

 

What is up with all the sink holes lately? Scary s***

[The Cats Ass]

At 3/39 and a second round pick he needs 7.7 WAR over 3 years to make that even surplus. No way that happens. I really don't see him putting up 2.6 WAR for three years. No room for any surplus there.

 

Who cares about surplus. We should be more worried about getting a guy that will give us above average production over 200 innings.

[HERPDERP]

My reaction:

http://i.imgur.com/frnXxyM.jpg

[Terminator]

At 3/39 and a second round pick he needs 7.7 WAR over 3 years to make that even surplus. No way that happens. I really don't see him putting up 2.6 WAR for three years. No room for any surplus there.

 

Edit: That's using 7.5M/WAR. If we use ZiPS's 5.65M/WAR that becomes 9.2 WAR in total or 3.1 per year.

 

How much is a 2nd round pick worth? If you use the 7.5 WAR number then he only needs 5.2 WAR over three years.

[KingKat]

I'd be pretty ambivalent. There would be nothing wrong with the signing itself, but it would cap off a very unimpressive offseason and leave the team a long shot for 90 wins.

 

Yeah that's the thing. It would be a perfectly legitimate signing in a vaccuum but it wouldn't do much for the team's outlook since Santana is unlikely to do much more than eat innings and provide below average production. That would have more value on a team with a stronger front of the rotation but when the top two guys are basically innings eaters themselves (albeit more productive ones), it's hard to get excited. Jimenez should also eat innings but he also has some upside which a least gives more cause for optimism.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Who cares about surplus. We should be more worried about getting a guy that will give us above average production over 200 innings.

 

Even if he doesn't provide any surplus value.. It's a 3 year deal. By no means does it hurt us going forward (Steamer has him at 2.7 next year as well if projections are going to be used).

 

He's durable, he gives you innings, and he's also outperformed his FIP for four consecutive years. He's not some piece of trash. He's a solid middle of the rotation pitcher who will help us dramatically.

[JaysAllMighty]

What a terrible offseason.

 

 

Just count your lucky stars that we haven't lost any of our top prospects in one of those AA's great trades..... YET!

[The_DH]

At 3/39 and a second round pick he needs 7.7 WAR over 3 years to make that even surplus. No way that happens. I really don't see him putting up 2.6 WAR for three years. No room for any surplus there.

 

Edit: That's using 7.5M/WAR. If we use ZiPS's 5.65M/WAR that becomes 9.2 WAR in total or 3.1 per year.

 

Who cares if he costs 100 million. It's not your money. The question is if the addition of the player improves the team or not. The cost of acquiring him is a second round pick and essentially the player he would replace. If you want to argue that he won't do that, I can understand it.