G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 The Yankees offense has a 113 wRC+, fourth best in baseball. It's looked spectacular. Yankees will score runs and they look like they have a good starting rotation. (Presuming Tanaka and Pineda continue to perform) Infield defense and bullpen are their problems.
BlueJayWay Verified Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 The Yankees offense has a 113 wRC+, fourth best in baseball. It's looked spectacular. Actually just checked the stats, and you're right. Totally surprised me. Everytime I see scores it seems like they've struggled on offense. http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/2014.shtml And this is why it seemd that way. They're only 9th in the AL in runs, despite being top 3 in avg/obp/slg. I still maintain the team is not going to be that good with the bats. Still early.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Actually just checked the stats, and you're right. Totally surprised me. Everytime I see scores it seems like they've struggled on offense. http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/2014.shtml And this is why it seemd that way. They're only 9th in the AL in runs, despite being top 3 in avg/obp/slg. I still maintain the team is not going to be that good with the bats. Still early. Every team looks like it struggles on offense these days! It's a new era. Being ninth in runs is just situational bad luck. It doesn't mean they've been bad with the bats.
BlueJayWay Verified Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Every team looks like it struggles on offense these days! It's a new era. Being ninth in runs is just situational bad luck. It doesn't mean they've been bad with the bats. No I get that. They've actually been really good with the bats. I don't think this team will end up anywhere near the top of the league in wRc or anything like that though. I see it as maybe a league average offense when all is said and done. They will live or die by that rotation.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Damn Chase Utley already at 1.5 WAR. Guy is on a very reasonable contract.... I'm sure RAJ will get offers for him throughout the season but will hold on to him in a desperate last attempt to contend.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 No I get that. They've actually been really good with the bats. I don't think this team will end up anywhere near the top of the league in wRc or anything like that though. I see it as maybe a league average offense when all is said and done. They will live or die by that rotation. And so will we...
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Looks like there's a show called Numbers Never Lie on TSN 2 in a few minutes, where athletes and stats guys will debate against each other. Not sure how old the program is, but might be amusing (or really dumb).
Glock Verified Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 JPA with an RBI groundout against the Mariners today. Solid offensive produkshun.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Looks like there's a show called Numbers Never Lie on TSN 2 in a few minutes, where athletes and stats guys will debate against each other. Not sure how old the program is, but might be amusing (or really dumb). Really dumb confirmed
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 JPA with an RBI groundout against the Mariners today. Solid offensive produkshun. He IS a run producer!
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 MLB Network just called Uehara a "relief Ace" oh my
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Good Christ. Listening to Sid and Perkins talking about WAR is f***ing painful. Sid: "I don't know how the stat is put together" seconds later Sid: "I think it's garbage"
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Good Christ. Listening to Sid and Perkins talking about WAR is f***ing painful. Sid: "I don't know how the stat is put together" seconds later Sid: "I think it's garbage" Nothing like trashing something you know nothing about!
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Thats one of CHPs sayings! Must be catching on I think that this community should get credit for this, any lawyers can help us sue MLB Network??
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Top 10 pitchers according to MLB network right now (currently so expect SSS) this list is independent of previous performance last year, only performance this year: 10. Ervin Santana 9. Alex Wood 8. Jessie Chavez 7. Aaron Harang 6. Scott Kazmir 5. Yu Dravish 4. Masahiro Tanaka 3. Andrew Cashner 2. Felix Hernandez 1. Johnny Cueto
aselvana Verified Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Top 10 pitchers according to MLB network right now (currently so expect SSS) this list is independent of previous performance last year, only performance this year: 10. Ervin Santana 9. Alex Wood 8. Jessie Chavez 7. Aaron Harang 6. Scott Kazmir 5. Yu Dravish 4. Masahiro Tanaka 3. Andrew Cashner 2. Felix Hernandez 1. Johnny Cueto wheres yordano!!
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Top 10 pitchers according to MLB network right now (currently so expect SSS) this list is independent of previous performance last year, only performance this year: 10. Ervin Santana 9. Alex Wood 8. Jessie Chavez 7. Aaron Harang 6. Scott Kazmir 5. Yu Dravish 4. Masahiro Tanaka 3. Andrew Cashner 2. Felix Hernandez 1. Johnny Cueto Lol. Jesse Chavez? Aaron Harang?
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 I'll be pretty pissed if Santana keeps this up We had a deal, bro
Flamingweazel Verified Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 ANy list with 3 best starters after 3 starts is totally meaningless.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Interesting. Loewen signs with Phillies and will attempt to come back again as a pitcher.
Convo Verified Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Yasiel Puig receives death threats http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/story/_/id/10798144/los-angeles-dodgers-manager-don-mattingly-says-worries-yasiel-puig-wake-reported-death-threats If he agreed to 20% of his salary to this 'miami business man and small time criminal' then he should pay up or his life is going to be on the line. A deal is a deal. I'm assuming that he's not paying up.
Convo Verified Member Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 BREF now includes FIP on main 'Standard pitching' page... lol
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Tampa getting destroyed again. Price got rocked and the offense shows zero signs of life. Myers blowing chunks so far.
Cooler Heads Prevail Verified Member Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Nothing like trashing something you know nothing about! Except, in this case, they are right. Defensive WAR is a piece of crap stat. Ranking Lawrie #28 among 3B this season defensively is a joke. Look, I remember when I started reading some of the stuff people say on this site about past Jays like Alomar and their defence, posted by kids who never saw them play but they believe in defensive WAR. I looked at their numbers. They don't even correlate well between seasons and I know the numbers on Alomar are absurd. Let's face it, admitting that defensive WAR is a joke makes WAR somewhat of a joke. And that upsets people.
over500 Verified Member Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Boogers has his first homerun. Kid has a ridiculously advanced approach for a 21-year old. But does he play the game the right way?
BlueJayWay Verified Member Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Except, in this case, they are right. Defensive WAR is a piece of crap stat. Ranking Lawrie #28 among 3B this season defensively is a joke. Look, I remember when I started reading some of the stuff people say on this site about past Jays like Alomar and their defence, posted by kids who never saw them play but they believe in defensive WAR. I looked at their numbers. They don't even correlate well between seasons and I know the numbers on Alomar are absurd. I don't know what the WAR numbers are on Alomar, but it should be said that there were some people who did believe he was overrated defensively who did see him play, back in the day. Bill James is one of those.
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Except, in this case, they are right. Defensive WAR is a piece of crap stat. Ranking Lawrie #28 among 3B this season defensively is a joke. Look, I remember when I started reading some of the stuff people say on this site about past Jays like Alomar and their defence, posted by kids who never saw them play but they believe in defensive WAR. I looked at their numbers. They don't even correlate well between seasons and I know the numbers on Alomar are absurd. Let's face it, admitting that defensive WAR is a joke makes WAR somewhat of a joke. And that upsets people. Just because the stats don't meet your observational bias doesn't make them wrong.
Eragon Verified Member Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Except, in this case, they are right. Defensive WAR is a piece of crap stat. Ranking Lawrie #28 among 3B this season defensively is a joke. Look, I remember when I started reading some of the stuff people say on this site about past Jays like Alomar and their defence, posted by kids who never saw them play but they believe in defensive WAR. I looked at their numbers. They don't even correlate well between seasons and I know the numbers on Alomar are absurd. Let's face it, admitting that defensive WAR is a joke makes WAR somewhat of a joke. And that upsets people. Lee_Marvin!!
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 First chance for me to see Billy Hamilton play It's the only afternoon game today
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 In Tampa for the weekend, catching the Rays/Yankees game tonight. Erik Bedard making his first start tonight. Would have liked to seen David Price or Alex Cobb, though Bedard being Canadian is a plus. Wearing my WBC Canada jersey at the Trop tonight.
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