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He might be worth that too.

 

That would only be 20M / year. I'd say that would be on the low end, although as he ages he'll lose some of the defense and speed value you'd think.

Posted
When Trout hits free agency he is going to get 15/300

Trout will get much more than that IMO.

 

He'll be entering his age-26 season when he becomes a free agent. Teams will be willing to pay both premium AAV and years. Maybe 14/364.

Posted

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see something like 400/15 floated around.

 

The Angels are pretty god damn stupid if they haven't done everything possible to extend him after his first season.

Posted
I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see something like 400/15 floated around.

 

The Angels are pretty god damn stupid if they haven't done everything possible to extend him after his first season.

 

I wonder what Trout would do if they offered him 400/20 right now? Could either side actually say no?

Posted
I wonder, does anyone around here have the kind of data to determine whether or not Trout's 21.1 career WAR is the biggest surplus on market-value in history? I don't think he's even made $2M yet.
Posted
I wonder what Trout would do if they offered him 400/20 right now? Could either side actually say no?

 

There's no way Trout declines that, but 20 years makes no sense for anybody. The owners and media would crucify the Angels, and they'd take a pretty massive PR hit for offering that much to Trout after spending so much on Pujols and Hamilton.

 

Besides, the whole point of extending a guy is to pay him significantly less than you'd have to if he made it to free agency.

 

They should offer him a 210M/10 extension right now. Something like:

 

01: 1

02: 10

03: 14

04: 20

05: 25

06: 25

07: 25

08: 30

09: 30

10: 30

 

Double his pre-arb salary for 2014 (1M), give him some decent guarantees for his arb years (10, 14, 20) and then a couple of decent raises after that. He hits FA at 32, similar age to Pujols and Cano, and cashes out again.

Posted
There's no way Trout declines that, but 20 years makes no sense for anybody. The owners and media would crucify the Angels, and they'd take a pretty massive PR hit for offering that much to Trout after spending so much on Pujols and Hamilton.

 

Besides, the whole point of extending a guy is to pay him significantly less than you'd have to if he made it to free agency.

 

They should offer him a 210M/10 extension right now. Something like:

 

01: 1

02: 10

03: 14

04: 20

05: 25

06: 25

07: 25

08: 30

09: 30

10: 30

 

Double his pre-arb salary for 2014 (1M), give him some decent guarantees for his arb years (10, 14, 20) and then a couple of decent raises after that. He hits FA at 32, similar age to Pujols and Cano, and cashes out again.

 

Assuming no major injury or drop off a cliff, you have to figure Trout will get a minimum of 10/300 4 years from now. However, even if it was only 10/250, under my scenario you'd be paying 10/150 for the other 10 years (4 on the front end and 6 on the back end). When you figure in inflation, that would seem to potentially be well under market value. If it's closer to 10/100 for the other 10 years, then it's a steal.

Posted

No way he'd accept that. At this rate his arb years will be 16-24-29 or something. He's the best player in history through two years. Pujols and Cano aren't comparable.

 

I would offer him 17/438:

 

5, 15, 20, 25, 25, 25, 25, 28, 28, 28, 30, 30, 30, 32, 32, 30, 30. Make him an Angel for life. There are profound franchise benefits for having an inner-circle guy play his whole career on your team.

Posted
I'd offer him 15/300 now. It's below market value considering everything but how can you pass up $300m..people get hurt. You'd think he would have to take it
Posted
No way he'd accept that. At this rate his arb years will be 16-24-29 or something. He's the best player in history through two years. Pujols and Cano aren't comparable.

 

I would offer him 17/438:

 

5, 15, 20, 25, 25, 25, 25, 28, 28, 28, 30, 30, 30, 32, 32, 30, 30. Make him an Angel for life. There are profound franchise benefits for having an inner-circle guy play his whole career on your team.

 

Thinking from the standpoint of an executive or the owner of a baseball team, I don't think I'd ever feel comfortable telling a 22-year old "I'm setting you up for life". He could screw off and do whatever he wants at that point and you're still paying him for the better part of the next two decades.

 

It doesn't really make sense at all to offer him that contract (17/438) right now. If you had that much money to give one player, why would you not just let him play out his ridiculously friendly pre-FA years and show you that he can do it for another 4 years before giving him that money? I mean, provided you have 440M to give to him, why not just wait till he's a free agent and give it to him then? Unless you're afraid some team is going to outbid your 440M offer? lol

Posted
I'd offer him 15/300 now. It's below market value considering everything but how can you pass up $300m..people get hurt. You'd think he would have to take it

 

rumors* say kershaw turned that much down.

 

* is cause yah i know there rumors but i don't think hes denied them. Rumor has it it was for over 10 years and he wasn't ready to commit that long to LA. So you never know trout might think the same thing.

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