Blue Jays are interested in Jamey Carroll

[Angrioter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPU5Pt0FdMY#t=17

[Angrioter]

Not sure why

 

'cause the old man is better player than Izturis or Goins

[Sammy225]

Good lord why do we need old creepy looking guys. Is this more Vetrin Presentz

[admin]

I suggested we traded for him and Willingham last year. Thank god we didn't lol. Willingham had a terrible year as well.

[Jays]

Vizquel

DeRosa

Carroll

[Angrioter]

That's not really saying much.

 

upgrade

 

Do you prefer Brandon Phillip$$$$?

[Angrioter]

Marginal upgrade. If you want to upgrade... Actually upgrade. And yea obvi.

 

I'm Ok with Izturis/Carroll and Tanaka, Colon, Baker

[Jays]

Carroll last year 43 wrc+ and -0.9 WAR.

[KingKat]

Marginal upgrade. If you want to upgrade... Actually upgrade. And yea obvi.

 

He's versatile as f***. He's be a good bench option if the Jays didn't already have Izturis. Sadly I think he'll be brought in to compete with Goins for the starting job. Looks likes it will be the same plan as in 2013, lots of different guys for 2B and none of them any good.

[Angrioter]

sigh

 

3Ys before: 2.13 WAR/Season

[Jays]

sigh

 

We're forgetting one thing. fWAR does not yet factor in pitch framing or vetrin presents.

[jays_fever]

Of course they would. Of f***ing course they would have interest in a 40 year old who cant play anymore

[Boxcar]

Of course they would. Of f***ing course they would have interest in a 40 year old who cant play anymore

 

I mind this move less than DeRosa and maybe Vizquel in a nutshell, but did AA forget he has Izturis? Why get a guy who would be used the exact same way? Makes no sense.

 

Ugh, can't wait for supporters of this crap to start saying "well he won't get that many ABs!!" In defense of this. Worked out great last two years!

[G-Snarls]

FFS Anthopoulos

 

#AimHigher

[jays_fever]

I mind this move less than DeRosa and maybe Vizquel in a nutshell, but did AA forget he has Izturis? Why get a guy who would be used the exact same way? Makes no sense.

 

Ugh, can't wait for supporters of this crap to start saying "well he won't get that many ABs!!" In defense of this. Worked out great last two years!

 

He was god awful last year and his stats were down across the board. Walk rate dropped significant, and his K rate went up. He also found a way to drop his ISO rate. Bringing in over the hill vets over young players who can actually contribute on some level like Goins is absurd.

 

Carrol is someone you pick up mid season when your entire team gets hurt..not someone you target during the off season

[dineke]

One step foward, three steps back.

[jaysblue]

Ah AA loves just wasting roster spots on aging players who can't hit. Omar Visquel 2.0!

[jaysblue]

Any time you have an opportunity to add a 40-year old infielder who can't actually contribute anymore you do it without question. How fortunate has AA been to be able to seamlessly transition from Vizquel to DeRosa to Carroll?

 

Carroll was quite productive from 2010-2012 (2 WAR or higher). Still, Carroll should not be a target in the offseason, especially as a starting second baseman or as a utility player since the Jays already have Maicer. Carrying Goins, Carroll and Maicer all north of the border is just a complete waste and awful roster management. At least use that bench spot on a bat. I have no problem with Carroll on a minor league deal and he plays in Buffalo, though not on a MLB deal.

[jaysblue]

He's versatile as f***. He's be a good bench option if the Jays didn't already have Izturis. Sadly I think he'll be brought in to compete with Goins for the starting job. Looks likes it will be the same plan as in 2013, lots of different guys for 2B and none of them any good.

 

With Maicer already here as a utility player/platoon at 2B, carrying Carroll would be awful roster management.

[admin]

Any time you have an opportunity to add a 40-year old infielder who can't actually contribute anymore you do it without question. How fortunate has AA been to be able to seamlessly transition from Vizquel to DeRosa to Carroll?

 

I remember a headline on Bluejays.com a couple weeks ago and I chuckled. "How will the Jays replace DeRosa?"

I think we found our answer.

[JFD]

so this is what AA does with his time?

[KingKat]

With Maicer already here as a utility player/platoon at 2B, carrying Carroll would be awful roster management.

 

Agreed. Even Carroll on a minor league deal would be problematic. The Jays already have Goins who can act at the first callup in case of an infield injury. They need someone ahead of him on the depth chart who pushes him down to AAA not someone behind him on the depth chart that pushed him to the 25 man roster (and perhaps even starting since the alternative is Izturis).

[Anemic0ffense]

What the f***? Seriously... Can we target a decent bench bat for a change?

[Chappy]

We better be getting two very good upgrades to the rotation if we're going to be having a black hole at 2B.

[jays_fever]

Agreed. Even Carroll on a minor league deal would be problematic. The Jays already have Goins who can act at the first callup in case of an infield injury. They need someone ahead of him on the depth chart who pushes him down to AAA not someone behind him on the depth chart that pushed him to the 25 man roster (and perhaps even starting since the alternative is Izturis).

 

Well Goins could easily be our backup infielder on the bench with Macier starting and I wouldnt have a problem with that. Probably should carry Sierra north as well to give Lind the day's off against lefties and would add a decent bat on our bench. Carroll's fine in Buffalo but please god not with Toronto day 1

[jaysblue]

I think you pretty much have to expect replacement-level from Carroll at this point.

 

Obviously. Don't expect him to post up 2 WAR or higher again. He's almost 40-years-old.

[jaysblue]

I remember a headline on Bluejays.com a couple weeks ago and I chuckled. "How will the Jays replace DeRosa?"

I think we found our answer.

 

Quite sad. This has probably been the first thing on AA's agenda this offseason: how to replace Mark DeRosa!

[jaysblue]

Agreed. Even Carroll on a minor league deal would be problematic. The Jays already have Goins who can act at the first callup in case of an infield injury. They need someone ahead of him on the depth chart who pushes him down to AAA not someone behind him on the depth chart that pushed him to the 25 man roster (and perhaps even starting since the alternative is Izturis).

 

Well if they decide to platoon Goins and Maicer at second base, then having Carroll as insurance in the minors is fine. Still, not the ideal plan heading into the season with Goins/Maicer as the starting second basemen.

 

Danny Espinosa is available and probably can be had for 20 cents on the dollar. They should go after him.

[Jays]

Danny Espinosa is available and probably can be had for 20 cents on the dollar. They should go after him.

 

That's who I want. What would he cost?

[jaysblue]

That's who I want. What would he cost?

 

Weren't they considering non-tendering him? Don't think he would cost that much at all.