Greg Burke is expected to receive offers from the Rockies and Blue Jays.

[JaysFan4Ever]

My apologies if it's been posted already or elsewhere but it's per Rotoworld via ESPNNewYork.com:

 

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/5630/greg-burke

 

The obvious question is WHY? They have a fair number of relievers even if a trade is made. If they do flip a few of them why would they think about replacing them with someone like him? I can see if it's a minor league deal, which wouldn't be a bad idea, but not a major league deal.

[Convo]

What the f***

[TheHurl]

AA loves relievers who throw Sinkers. Simple as that.

[G-Snarls]

AA loves relievers who throw Sinkers. Simple as that.

 

Sinkers, not stinkers

 

/Zaun

[GD]

Who cares? Can't really hurt, and maybe this is a precursor to trading a bullpen arm

[Frenchsoup]

You have to give AA cradit for finding good relievers, it's the one thing he's good at. Delabar,Santos,Jeffress,Wagner,Juan, he was also in on Grilli when everyone was like wtf?

[GD]

You have to give AA cradit for finding good relievers, it's the one thing he's good at.

 

Thing is, he gives up Mike f***ing Aviles and Yan f***ing Gomes to do it.

[G-Snarls]

Who cares? Can't really hurt, and maybe this is a precursor to trading a bullpen arm

 

My thoughts too, initially

 

But wow his stats are atrocious

[GD]

My thoughts too, initially

 

But wow his stats are atrocious

 

3.95 xFIP and put up a .364 BABIP, Steamer projects a 3.74 ERA

 

Um is AA actually maybe almost making a smart move?

[G-Snarls]

3.95 xFIP and put up a .364 BABIP, Steamer projects a 3.74 ERA

 

Um is AA actually maybe almost making a smart move?

 

How is his FIP that decent when he walks almost 5 batters per 9??

[GD]

How is his FIP that decent when he walks almost 5 batters per 9??

 

Because he strikes out a good deal of batters and doesn't give up many homers. If he walked fewer batters, he'd be very good.

 

3.84 SIERA also supports some positive regression incoming. If we traded Janssen for something real nice, let Santos close or Delabar or whoever, and signed Burke, I would not mind that.

[GD]

Keep in mind the sample you're analyzing is only 31.2 innings. And a 3.84 ERA is very mediocre these days anyway.

 

K-Rod will come really cheap again, I'd much rather go after him as a Janssen replacement.

 

Yeah, he's mediocre, but he probably won't even cost a million and he's just a reliever.

 

Define cheap on K-Rod, cause I figure some team will give him a few mil.

[kgm1]

WE have 19 possible f***ing relievers on the 40 man or in the system . We need to trade some or lose them to waivers as too many are out of options . I want a catcher and starter . There should be zero money spent on the Bull pen .

[GD]

$900k for one year?

 

That's all you think he'd get? Cause damn that would be nice.

[GD]

Yes, because of his bad clubhouse rep. Last year he didn't even sign until April 17! But he's still a decent reliever.

 

79 xFIP-, sign me up. Dayum.

[G-Snarls]

WE have 19 possible f***ing relievers on the 40 man or in the system . We need to trade some or lose them to waivers as too many are out of options . I want a catcher and starter . There should be zero money spent on the Bull pen .

 

Amen. Trade overperforming or expensive relievers for stuff we REALLY need.

[jaysblue]

$900k for one year?

 

I think K-Rod can get more than 900 K on the open market. He pitched well last season and I'm sure he gets something around $2-3 million on a one-year deal.

[TheHurl]

Also with Burke...last 3 years between the minors and major against RH hitters:

 

128.2 IP

34 BB

133 K's

 

He's a righty specialist, he's kind of a bullpen version of Todd Redmond. Of course it would be just as easy to make Redmond a bullpen version of Todd Redmond

[GD]

He's a righty specialist, he's kind of a bullpen version of Todd Redmond. Of course it would be just as easy to make Redmond a bullpen version of Todd Redmond

 

That's gonna be a bit hard to do when Redmond is our #3 next year

[jaysblue]

That's gonna be a bit hard to do when Redmond is our #3 next year

 

If Redmond is the Jays No. 3 starter next season on Opening Day, just wave the white flag.

[GD]

If Redmond is the Jays No. 3 starter next season on Opening Day, just wave the white flag.

 

I'm expecting the worst, hoping for the best.

[G-Snarls]

That's gonna be a bit hard to do when Redmond is our #3 next year

 

I'm looking for the "NO thanks", thumbs down button to click on below your post but can't seem to find it...

[GD]

I'm looking for the "NO thanks", thumbs down button to click on below your post but can't seem to find it...

 

It's best to just accept that scenario as inevitable then

[Angrioter]

You have to give AA cradit for finding good relievers, it's the one thing he's good at. Delabar,Santos,Jeffress,Wagner,Juan, he was also in on Grilli when everyone was like wtf?

 

add Franky Francisco, Coco Cordero, Rauch, Lincoln, Igarashi, Hill, Storey, Edgar Gonzalez, Jesse Chavez, Pauley, Bush, Germano, P.J. Walters

[Angrioter]

The Jays are 15th in reliever WAR since AA took over (also 27th in FIP, 18th in xFIP). There's nothing special about his bullpen track record.

 

To that I referred. AA hasn't done a good job with the bullpen.

[KingKat]

Not sure I understand the negative reaction to this. If AA is looking at under the radar guys to add to the bullpen that can only be a good sign, a sign that some of the pitchers at the front end will be moved to address greater needs. And no he's not a replacement for Janssen but that's not the idea. The idea is that you move everyone up and this guy slots in at the back-end.

 

And since this guy has been outrighted, it's my understanding that he will only cost money which means that AA might actually be acquiring relievers the normal way instead of throwing away his positional depth (just because it worked for Delabar doesn't mean it's the right approach as Esmil Rogers beautifully illustrated).

[Angrioter]

Not sure I understand the negative reaction to this. If AA is looking at under the radar guys to add to the bullpen that can only be a good sign, a sign that some of the pitchers at the front end will be moved to address greater needs. And no he's not a replacement for Janssen but that's not the idea. The idea is that you move everyone up and this guy slots in at the back-end.

 

And since this guy has been outrighted, it's my understanding that he will only cost money which means that AA might actually be acquiring relievers the normal way instead of throwing away his positional depth (just because it worked for Delabar doesn't mean it's the right approach as Esmil Rogers beautifully illustrated).

 

Silver lining - Save a few dollars

The bad - Fill the 40-man roster with replacement level players.

[Angrioter]

Not sure I understand the negative reaction to this. If AA is looking at under the radar guys to add to the bullpen that can only be a good sign, a sign that some of the pitchers at the front end will be moved to address greater needs. And no he's not a replacement for Janssen but that's not the idea. The idea is that you move everyone up and this guy slots in at the back-end.

 

And since this guy has been outrighted, it's my understanding that he will only cost money which means that AA might actually be acquiring relievers the normal way instead of throwing away his positional depth (just because it worked for Delabar doesn't mean it's the right approach as Esmil Rogers beautifully illustrated).

 

Delabar was a gift of God. Thames wasn't a "positional depth", he's not a good ballplayer.

[KingKat]

Silver lining - AA might actually trade some of his relievers to address positional needs instead of the other way around.

[Angrioter]

Silver lining - AA might actually trade some of his relievers to address positional needs instead of the other way around.

 

 

We're smart; The Jays front office aren't smart.