Josh Donaldson passed Miggy in WAR

[Jays]

But pitching is also important, and the Angels are sorely lacking in pitching. This is reflected in their 24th-ranked pitching WAR - much worse than the Braves or Reds. And that's not Trout's fault.

 

You just made a good case for Trout to win MVP. Their offence was good because he was a part of it but his team sucked because of something completely out of his control (pitching)

[G-Snarls]

pitching is also important, and the Angels are sorely lacking in pitching. This is reflected in their 24th-ranked pitching WAR - much worse than the Braves or Reds. And that's not Trout's fault.

 

Excellent point

[Boxcar]

And if I read the Fangraphs stat right, according to "WAR" the Angels were a better team then the Braves and the Reds.

 

Excellent deduction, Sherlock

[Nox]

CHP: Waterloo Math degree, can't use computers.

[jays_fever]

Heading to the other league. Should/could Kershwaw win MVP over McCutchen? Kershaw has 8.3 RA9-WAR while McCutchen has 7.9 WAR.

 

McCutchen is the best positional player in the league and helped make the Pirates relevant again after so many years. Zero chance he doesnt get it

[G-Snarls]

#VoteForCutch

[G-Snarls]

McCutchen is the best positional player in the league and helped make the Pirates relevant again after so many years. Zero chance he doesnt get it

 

You pretty much only see pitchers get it when one has an insane year AND there's no clear cut positional player who stands out above every body. But McCutheon is doing the latter. No disrespect to Kershaw - he gets the Cy, McCutheon is MVP.

[Boxcar]

You pretty much only see pitchers get it when one has an insane year AND there's no clear cut positional player who stands out above every body. But McCutheon is doing the latter. No disrespect to Kershaw - he gets the Cy, McCutheon is MVP.

 

Verlander?

[Angrioter]

Cutchen - Miggy

 

My Vote: Cutchen, Trout

[G-Snarls]

Verlander?

 

I'd say that was one of those years where there were really good position players with excellent years (Bautista, Cabrera, Ellsbury) but maybe not a CLEAR front runner among them? Not sure what the voters thought exactly but maybe those guys "split the vote"

[John_Havok]

A lot of the sheep believe that WAR should be sole determinant of who wins the MVP

 

When did people in the minority who are questioning the majority opinion and challenging a century of traditionalist thought process considered sheep? The irony is incredible.

[theblujay]

If Miggy doesn't win the MVP I will be very upset and I'll probably take it out on this thread.

[GD]

If Miggy doesn't win the MVP I will be very upset and I'll probably take it out on this thread.

 

Come at us, brah.

[theblujay]

Come at us, brah.

 

I will, if Cabrera wins ill be all over you

[GD]

I will, if Cabrera wins ill be all over you

 

He's going to win, go nuts.

[G-Snarls]

We all know he WILL win, the point is that he shouldn't. Nothing is proved by him winning.

 

It proves that the baseball writers:

 

A) Penalize good players for being on bad teams

Think their own analysis of players based on basic stats is better than WAR

[Angrioter]

If Miggy doesn't win the MVP I will be very upset and I'll probably take it out on this thread.

 

................And if your uncle pees sitting isn't your uncle, is your aunt.

[G-Snarls]

This is kinda where the awards are gray. I would vote Harvey for Cy Young, but would have Kershaw 3rd or 4th in MVP voting with Harvey off the map. Best Pitcher was Harvey, Most Valuable Pitcher was Kershaw.

 

This confuses me

[GD]

This is kinda where the awards are gray. I would vote Harvey for Cy Young, but would have Kershaw 3rd or 4th in MVP voting with Harvey off the map. Best Pitcher was Harvey, Most Valuable Pitcher was Kershaw. This vagueness only applies to pitchers though. It means the same thing for hitters really (with the exception of like Trout being injured half the season where he'd be the best but not most valuable).

 

Yeah I see where you're coming from here.