Can Ryan Goins stick?

[Angrioter]

Great thread.

 

The closest to stardom that Goins has been.

[Daniel Labude]

If Goins can keep this up for the rest of the year I am fine with him starting next season and using the money for starting pitching.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Is his name actually pronounced Go-ins.

 

Not Goins? (Rhyming with coins).

 

That's disappointing to me for some reason.

[The_DH]

Like what I see so far. The defense is good and not subject to SSS.

[TheHurl]

If Goins can keep this up for the rest of the year I am fine with him starting next season and using the money for starting pitching.

 

How does it save money as Izturis is being paid anyway...this theory only works for those that seriously think we are going out and getting a top 2B.

[Convo]

The reason Goins seems good is because he's been absolutely flawless at 2B and we haven't seen that all year. His crazy high BABIP may be helping his case as well.

[The_DH]

I was paying attention to his defense tonight. Most impressive.

[G-Snarls]

Is his name actually pronounced Go-ins.

 

Not Goins? (Rhyming with coins).

 

That's disappointing to me for some reason.

 

Yes. Me too. I was pronouncing it wrong until tonight when I heard Wilner get all punny and called him a "goin concern".

[G-Snarls]

The reason Goins seems good is because he's been absolutely flawless at 2B and we haven't seen that all year. His crazy high BABIP may be helping his case as well.

 

Sure. No one expects him to keep up this offense. But he looks so baseball savvy and smooth at 2B. Like you say, we're not used to that.

[The_DH]

Yep, we've seen some lousy baseball.

[theblujay]

Sure. No one expects him to keep up this offense. But he looks so baseball savvy and smooth at 2B. Like you say, we're not used to that.

 

So many those minor league reports were right...? Fascinating.

[P2F]

I'm legitimately worried this is going to become a Eric Thames situation

 

Honestly, you probably should be worried.

[theblujay]

Lol some serious haters around here.. if you don't agree with them then you become a casual fan

 

Dont disturb the hive mind

[theblujay]

There's literally zero chance that Gose or Goins become solid everyday players because they will never hit because they had a bad wRC+ at AAA.

[BlueJayWay]

Is his name actually pronounced Go-ins.

 

Not Goins? (Rhyming with coins).

 

That's disappointing to me for some reason.

I'm just going to keep rhyming it with coins

[BlueJayWay]

And as far as he goes, he's looked pretty solid defensively, but his career minor league stats are pretty blah. And he's like 25, so he's even not really that young for a prospect. He likely won't hit enough. But at least it seems he has some D, unlike Thames

[Angrioter]

There's literally zero chance that Gose or Goins become solid everyday players because they will never hit because they had a bad wRC+ at AAA.

 

Its not about AAA, its about skill or/and tools. Goins is nothing, everybody knows that.

[John_Havok]

Most annoying time of year when it comes to stupid fans overreacting to meaningless samples: August/September or spring training?

 

I still go with Spring Training, but add in April for the minors ala Jim Negrych.

[theblujay]

Most annoying time of year when it comes to stupid fans overreacting to meaningless samples: August/September or spring training?

 

Well there's nothing better to do with this team once we get to August

[theblujay]

Apparently this (bold) is not true

 

The majority would agree its true. Even some who haven't seen him play.

[Laika]

This isn't about Goins anymore. It's about the message board clique. Douchecanoes like BTS, Hurl, Dinger, Nox, Boxy, KSaw, and NJH just think they're so f***ing cool....

[theblujay]

This isn't about Goins anymore. It's about the message board clique. Douchecanoes like BTS, Hurl, Dinger, Nox, Boxy, KSaw, and NJH just think they're so f***ing cool....

 

Hey leave Hurl and KSaw out of this

[theblujay]

????

 

Angrioter said "majority of the fans know Goins is nothing"

 

Clearly this isn't true, because I have seem him penciled in as 2B many times for next year

 

The "non-casuals" on this board almost completely agree that Goins is nothing.

[theblujay]

89 wRC+ as a 25 year old in AAA

 

But lets pencil him as 2B next year because of SSSSSSSSSSSS in meaningless end of the season games

 

Never said that...Just don't want to give up on him so fast

[P2F]

Yeah, spring is probably worse. I think things are so bad this year because the team sucks and, Lawrie aside, all of our young talent is marginal. Sierra shouldn't be on a pro roster, Goins and Pillar will be bench players at best, and even Gose is looking pretty busty. Hardcore fans want to see young talent when their team is out of it, and they're going to be optimistic about that young talent. Unfortunately that talent sucks this year.

 

A silver lining to his suckitude?

[Boxcar]

Look no further than Pillar to see an exact opposite case.. played well in the minors and totally cannot play MLB..I think character difference comes into play here.. there's no stat to measure that.. either you have it or you don't.. I think players like drabek and gose are mentally fragile as opposed to guys like hutch and possibly this goins character.. I believe confidence plays a big role on how things translate into MLB coming from the minors

 

Yeah, we could totally lose our s*** over a 10 game sample, or we could be rational human beings and you know...not.

 

Pillar has a .222 BABIP. Ryan Goins has a .500 BABIP. Clearly Goins is better at "character difference-ing" the ball into holes.

[Boxcar]

The same place where people thought Jake Marisnick was the next Micky Mantle.

 

Jake Marisnick is WAAY more handsome than Mickey Mantle. What an insulting comparison.

[Boxcar]

This isn't about Goins anymore. It's about the message board clique. Douchecanoes like BTS, Hurl, Dinger, Nox, Boxy, KSaw, and NJH just think they're so f***ing cool....

 

You would call out yourself and your grist, Queen of the Hive.

[Boxcar]

Ipad out the window

 

The only place it should go.

[Boxcar]

I just noticed earlier today that you're carrying Pillar in the DDL. I lol'd.

 

I dropped him. I'm in last, may as well try to catch s***-lightning in a bottle.